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Several readers have asked me what I think of Peter Feaver's "realist" defense of the Bush administration's foreign policy. Feaver's logic is admirably straightforward: 1) realism emphasizes evaluating great powers by how they manage relations with other great powers, 2) Bush did relatively well on that front, therefore: 3) Bush had a good foreign policy by "realist" standards. QED.

Not so fast.

First of all, relations with the other great powers weren't a top priority for Bush and his team, especially after 9/11. So even if one accepts Feaver's argument, it amounts to saying that Bush and Co. did better on issues they paid less attention to, while screwing up royally in the areas that they focused on most. I'd agree, but it's not exactly a ringing defense.   

Second, as Feaver admits, relations with Russia got worse throughout Bush's two terms, culminating in that nasty little war in Georgia last summer. Part of the problem may have been Bush's decidedly non-realist method of gauging Russian intentions (i.e., looking into Vladimir Putin's soul), but the larger problem was that the administration kept assuming it could trample all over Russian interests and ignore various Russian "red lines" and not pay any diplomatic price for it. (To be fair, this was merely the continuation of the Clinton administration's own approach, but Bush failed to realize that Russia was no longer as hapless as it had been in the Yeltsin era). So they continued to expand NATO (including open support for Ukrainian and Georgian membership), insisted on independence for Kosovo, and started deploying missile defenses in Eastern Europe, a step which Moscow could only see as an attempt to gain some sort of first-strike advantage.  Whatever the merits of these various initiatives, it was entirely predictable that Russia would be very, very, annoyed by them and that it would be eager for payback.

Even if Bush did manage to avoid a violent blow-up with Moscow, his approach made it impossible to get Russia's cooperation on several issues that did matter a lot to Washington. Russia didn't support the invasion of Iraq in 2002-2003, and along with France and Germany, this opposition made it impossible to get a second U.N. Security Council supporting military action. Russia also repeatedly balked on tougher sanctions toward Iran, which made it harder to deal effectively with Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

Nor does Bush deserve an "A grade" on relations with India. The new security partnership with India is a positive step that can certainly be justified on realist grounds, but the price Bush paid -- in effect turning a blind eye toward India's nuclear programs and thereby sending a torpedo into the existing non-proliferation regime -- was too high, especially in an era when we were rightly worried about discouraging the spread of nuclear weapons to rogue states or terrorists. But at least he got a lot of help from India in Iraq, and strong backing from New Delhi on Iran? Oops, my mistake: they stiffed us on Iraq and provided only mild diplomatic support on the issue of Iran’s nuclear program. Seems that new strategic partnership still has some growing to do. As for China, it has taken advantage of our confrontation with Tehran to quietly enhance its own position in this vital strategic area, and forged a series of new connections in Asia while our attention was focused elsewhere.

Finally, realists would judge a great power's foreign policy not just on how one manages bilateral relations with other great powers, but on whether one’s overall foreign policy has left it in a better position vis-à-vis the other major states, and especially those that might become serious competitors.  Here the record is much more worrisome: by mismanaging relations in other places -- most notably the Middle East -- Bush weakened U.S. material power and brought America's global image to new lows. One suspects that Chinese foreign policy elites have found it difficult to contain their glee; their influence has risen not so much because they have played their hand skillfully, but because we've been shooting ourselves in the foot.

Bottom line: even on this narrow "realist" criteria, it's hard to give Bush high marks.

PAUL J. RICHARDS/AFP/Getty Images

 
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GRAND SEN-OR

7:56 AM ET

January 9, 2009

Hi Stephen,here is a copy of

Hi Stephen,

here is a copy of my advice (heh heh he I am advising Bush can you believe it??!! and believe me next thing I am going to do is advise Obama, free of charge, unless I've already done it;->) to Bush in 2001:

Mr President,
your honourable aide said "rethink this thing"...
it is easy to say "rethink this thing", yes, but with what Sir?
with weapons?
with a constitution in contradiction full of useless words?
Mr President,
I have been told that people think with words, with sound words. For
years the US invested its resources into the development of all sorts
of weapons and defence gadgetry. She directed her scientific research
programs to develop more and more sophisticated arms and defence
mechanisms. But ignored _words_, check out your expense accounts Mr
President since the first composition of the constitution of the USA,
and see how much spent for its development since then.
Mr President,
since 18th Century all our social and physical scientific theories
have been renewed numerous times, while the Constitution of the USA
stayed the same as if it was the Sacred Book of The God.
Mr President,
The Constitution of the USA is not a or the sacred book of the God,
otherwise by now we would have a huge literature comparing it with the
Sacred Scriptures of the God to secure a sound justification for it.
With regards,
Grand Sen~or

here is the link to this message:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.turkish/browse_frm/thread/e320cb918db14b15?q=#6eb9005f86ac58df

in short, in those years, what I was trying to tell Bush was "Don't enter Baghdad with such a constitution, you may get shoe-showers";->>

 

BERLIN.AARON

11:59 PM ET

January 8, 2009

Is the "more may be better"

Is the "more may be better" argument for nuclear proliferation completely dead? A world with a nuclear Iran might be a world in which the United States is more reluctant to go on Middle Eastern adventures in the first place. Who cares if Iran gets the bomb, so long as they don't come to dominate the whole Middle East. Just give the Saudi's and the Egyptians the bomb and let the whole thing play itself out. Or maybe nobody takes Waltz seriously after 9/11.

 

GRAND SEN-OR

8:04 AM ET

January 9, 2009

woww, more thinking with

woww, more thinking with weapons, with mass destruction weapons, we started thinking big;->>
I think I am talking in the air with _words_ - looks like;->>
Yeah, why don't we start WW3 and get away with us - all together - that would be a real solution to our all worries;->>

Stephen, if you guys keep thinking with weapons (in Turkish weapon also means prick) then why bother to keep a blog, better keep an arsenal;->>
Besides weapons is good business, you can make a lot of money;->>
yeah give them weapons and booze and get the hell out of their fat (should I say oil;-));->> that worked before, who knows it may work again;->>

 

DJCARPEN2

12:55 AM ET

January 9, 2009

Thanks

Thank you for answering my question.

 

VLADIMIR

2:40 AM ET

January 9, 2009

Stephen, I would add that

Stephen, I would add that great powers are from at least a defensive realist point of view, tasked with system maintenance responsibilities, and under Bush the US has become the world's preeminent revisionist power. Perhaps you're sometime co-author would disagree and argue that what the Bush administration has pursed is a reckless form of revisionism which as you noted has left the US in potentially a weaker position in the future.

 

DAVE R

4:23 AM ET

January 9, 2009

Bush wasn't even on the same planet as the realist

"it's hard to give Bush high marks"
You are kidding right?
Bush/Chaney and the war party have essentially sunk this country to its lowest ebb in 100 years, our only hope is that the Chinese do not pull their support of the dollar. Even if that doesn't happen you can say goodbye to the trillion dollar a year foreign policy the war party has wasted on the Pax Americana disaster that they have reigned over. The world will be a much better place for humanity once useful idiots such as Bush realize they are not of some superior culture who should be jamming their ideas of democracy, good government and way of life down the throat of other peoples and cultures. I had hoped that Bush's campaign statements of a humble foreign policy indicated enlightenment, but alas, he was no better than past interventionist dating back to Wilson.

 

BRETT

7:58 AM ET

January 9, 2009

Would it be better if we

Would it be better if we simply dropped the unctuous righteous tone to a lot of these things and simply said straight out, like Bush I eventually did, that we're up to something for American interest, and that's it?

A lot of the reaction to U.S. action is based around perception, and the perception of how the US tries to bolster its own image. Nobody, for example, expects China to be some big promoter of human rights, or even peace outside of its own country (they sell weapons and give money hand-outs to pretty much anyone including Sudan in Africa).

Of course, then you'd have a lot of domestic constituencies and the Internationalist group screaming their heads off, but if you kept it up for a while, the perception would change.

 

GRAND SEN-OR

8:37 PM ET

January 9, 2009

Every "nation" up to something their interest

Yeah but every "nation" is up to something their interest;->
however, they also up to some higher values somehow like justice, truth/reality, other cultural values, law, peace, etc. For example Bush doesn't come up and say "It is up to American interest to cheat and steal oil wherever and whenever possible". He says "We are here as saviours in the name of democracy and civilisation and justice and law and order and peace and you name what else...(all written in our Constitution, we are not bandits/buccaneers/terrorists, we are a _legal_ socio-politico-economic entyty (SPEE) recognized by our constitution (he doesn't say this part but you may assume he said as a modern leader of a modern state;-))".
So, when a _modern state_ leader talks like that the first thing I do is to read the constitution he/she sweared on, just to try understand what he is up to in _legal_ context. And based on that I have posted my first message here which leads you further string of messages in my questioning.
Grand Sen~or

 

MDREW

8:47 AM ET

January 9, 2009

"Two incompetently prosecuted wars have undermined..."

"Two incompetently prosecuted wars have undermined our deterrent power."

This is the apt tag line applied by the Wall Street Journal to a scathing piece (scathing especially but not exclusively to the Bush administration) by novelist Mark Helprin about the strategic fallout of the last eight years that I think is highly relevant to this discussion.

Here's the link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122965053466920579.html

Helprin, by way of somewhat inscrutable historical example, specifies the singular strategic failure that Bush will stand accused of: the squandering and destruction of the deterrent force of America's conventional military forces. This has come via twin tragedies: the destruction of the force from exhaustion (1), and (2) the spectacle of the failure to achieve strategic aims in two conflicts. The fact that the second of these came about by flawed civilian and high-level uniformed strategic leadership does nothing to mitigate the damage to notional strategic competence as perceived by potential enemies.

This is the true bill of failure for this administration in a realist accounting, at least in the military dimension. The economic catastrophe will of course likely have a greater overall long-term impact on our ability to pursue and protect our interests and, eventually, to project force.

 

GRAND SEN-OR

1:22 AM ET

January 10, 2009

Let's be fair and _realistic_

Guys,
lets be fair and realistic,the failure is not due to the performance of poor(or rich as you wish) Bush;->>
Any president (including Obama) would be doomed to such a failure performing within the framework of existing Constitution of the USA. This is the _reality_ here - written black and white, please read it carefully. All your FP and IP activities is and must be according to the Constitution otherwise you would be _illegal_. Bush did _nothing_ illegal according to the Constitution of the USA. I guess you were not expecting Bush to act against the Constitution or out of the frame of the Constitution just to satisfy your "realist"'ic requirements;->
One can only blame Bush (if one can) that he sweared on the Constitution to be a president, he shouldn't take the responsibility before it is rewritten;->>
So, called FP talks on this blog boils down to the Constitution again, they are realistic as much as they are constitutional. I don't see any critisism of the constitution here, so,so called realist views are sounding realist based on imaginary/wishfull/futuristic constitutions;->
Stephen M. Walt should add every _realistic_ statements of himself the phrase "realist according to the article such and such" to be convinsing. He shouldn't leave readers to guess according to which constitution's what article he asserts his _realistic_ statements. Because then our beloved Bush come and say "Yeah Walt what you assert might sound realistic but is it also a valid assertion according to the Constitution of the USA?"
I think S.M.Walt shouldn't beg for such questions;->>

I really musn't forget to add here the simple rule of elementary logic though;->
p&~p implies anything you like;->
so, S.M.Walt's job won't be as difficult as it seems in his addition of "realist according to the article such and such" at the end of his assertions;-)
You guys have a lot of _homework_ to do before FPing;-)
Don't get mad with me I've learnt this way of bargaining from Jews;-))

Grand Sen~or

 

DJ_83

3:56 PM ET

January 10, 2009

Feaver's on to something

I think Peter Feaver's really on to something. Relations with both Russia and China could have soured much more than they did given several other long-term, structural factors. The relationship with China, in fact, was too close for the comfort of some, including Dr. Mearsheimer. Second, the overzealous NATO/EU expansion - which appears to have sparked Russia's aggressive rhetoric and its involvement in Georgia - was as much a function of European activism as American intentions.

Regarding India, nuclear non-proliferation has hardly taken a beating since the brokering of that agreement (Israel, which seeks similar treatment, has been told a resounding 'no' by the Nuclear Suppliers Group). India, earlier this year, boasted a 66% approval rating of the United States, and a 55% approval rating of Bush as a leader, and has recently signed some big defense deals with the U.S. Sure, India did not join the fight in Iraq - but it waffled over that decision for over a year, when many U.S. allies turned it down flat - and it has repeatedly asked for greater involvement in Afghanistan. And India chose to vote twice against Iran at the IAEA - when China, Russia, and others abstained - a decision that was immensely unpopular in domestic political circles and almost led to the fall of the government in New Delhi. That's hardly mild diplomatic support. Bush's courting of India is widely agreed upon by those who study the region as an unqualified success.

Finally, the U.S.-Japan alliance, while hugely personality-driven in Tokyo, is stronger today than many would have thought imaginable ten or fifteen years ago. And while European publics generally despised Bush, look at the relations he managed to forge with his counterparts in Britain, France and Germany.

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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