Dumb and dumber?

Tue, 03/17/2009 - 1:45pm

Debates about many foreign policy issues persist because it is hard to know what the right course of action is and reasonable people can reach different conclusions about them. But there is a special category of foreign policy where almost everyone agrees the existing policy is wrong-headed yet almost everyone also believes the policy is impossible to change.

I'm sure FP readers have their own favorites in this category, but I thought I'd start the conversation with three nominees of my own.  

1.) Farm Subsidies and Agricultural Trade Barriers
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Like other industrial countries, the United States subsidizes a host of agricultural products and erects various trade barriers against foreign imports. This happens because the farm lobby is defending the narrow interests of the farm sector and many democratic systems give small groups (in this case farmers or agribusiness) disproportionate influence. (It's the usual story: A small group reaps the benefits of this policy while the costs are dispersed across the whole population). This policy makes food more expensive, encourages farmers to grow the wrong crops, squanders energy, and hinders economic development in poorer countries, thereby contributing to political instability. These policies also make it much harder to negotiate multilateral trade deals that would raise prosperity world-wide. So although nearly every detached observer thinks the policy is wrong, they also know that the political power of farm interests (both here and abroad) makes it excruciatingly difficult to change course.

2.) The Cuba Embargo.

We all know the old line that insanity consists of doing something over and over again but expecting different results. By that standard the U.S. embargo on Cuba is demented. If an embargo was going to topple Castro's regime, it would be long gone. The current embargo has been in place for nearly five decades, persisting even after the Soviet Union had collapsed and when it is clear that an old and feeble Fidel poses no threat. Hardly anyone thinks it is the right policy anymore (if it ever was), but it remains in place because a small number of well-organized and politically active Cuban-Americans care about the issue and the rest of the country doesn't care enough to override their preferences. Because Florida is a swing state and its politicians remain sensitive to the Cuban-American lobby, a policy that has probably helped Castro stay in power remains in effect. Maybe this policy will finally change under Obama (or when Fidel dies), but don't bet on it.

3.) The "War on Drugs."

This one is a bit more controversial, in the sense that there is still a genuine debate on some of these issues.  But there seems to be a growing consensus that the "war on drugs" (which we've been waging far longer than the "war on terrorism") is both ill-conceived and poorly executed. In the United States, as in many other countries, our anti-drug policies focus primarily on the supply-side: we go after growers, traffickers, dealers and users. And the United States is especially quick to incarcerate anyone who possesses narcotics, even for relatively minor offenses. The results are almost certainly worse than the problem itself: our policy helps enrich drug lords and make it possible for them to destabilize whole governments, as they are now doing in Mexico and Afghanistan. Criminalizing narcotics possession has created a burgeoning prison population that is expensive to maintain and whose long-term incarceration produces a host of other social ills. (For a depressing analysis of some of them, see sociologist Bruce Western's Punishment and Equality in America). As The Economist recently argued, "the war on drugs has been a disaster, creating failed states in the developing world even as addiction has flourished in the rich world. By any sensible measure, this 100-year struggle has been illiberal, murderous and pointless." Reasonable people still disagree on what a better approach might be, but decriminalizing narcotics possession and focusing on education and treatment programs would cost less and probably leave us no worse off in terms of addiction and its consequences. But a politician who seriously proposed such a course of action would almost certainly face a firestorm of criticism, so the current failed policy is likely to continue more-or-less unchanged.

There are some other enduring policy initiatives I think are equally misguided (such as missile defense) but the consensus against them is not as clear-cut. On these three, however, I think most well-informed individuals know the policy is wrong yet unlikely to change.

So three questions for readers.   

First, am I right to say that most experts agree that these three policies are both wrong and resistant to revision?

Second, are there any other prominent examples of similar follies: misguided foreign policies that almost everyone thinks should be changed but won’t be?  

And third, if a lot of stupid policies persist even when it is obvious they make little sense, what does that say about the capacity of democratic systems to learn from their mistakes?

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the existing policy is

This happens because the farm lobby is defending the narrow interests of the farm sector and many democratic systems give small groups (in this case farmers or agribusiness) disproportionate influence.

Typical Mate, typical - Lobbyrocracy;->

the existing policy is wrong-headed yet almost everyone also believes the policy is impossible to change.

Professor, you are half right;->
Yes you are right the policies itemized are wrong headed, but I don't agree with you that those policies are impossible to change. Maybe you should qualify that they are impossible given the State, Monopoly structure because a lot of interests jam the doores of change. But as I suggested before if you dissolve the Monopoly and let the SPEEs get their right to law and function naturally than tens of new doors will be opened, tens of real leaderships will emerge all over America to deal with restructuring and real change. I don't understand why you are so scared to open Pandora's Box to disperse all those troubles to be handled by their owners even as a TE. That is what I would call realistic. Remember Obama pointing his index finger to the citizens saying "You will solve all those problems!", with what means Mate?! With what means?, poor citizens scared of their shadow can't even say boo to a goose looking each other saying "Is he talking to us?!";->>
Equip them at least in your TE and see what may happen!

Think about it Mate, for a willing human being those are not impossible.

Grand Sen~or.

Lobbying makes change (virtually) impossible

Prof.,
you answer your own question: "A small group reaps the benefits of this policy while the costs are dispersed across the whole population."

These wrong-headed policies are usually supported by small groups who are both very vocal and contribute to political campaigns.

This is possible because the current form of lobbying is considered legal, whereas most people would consider it illegal bribery.

It is sensible for them to do so, as what they usually get from Treasury greatly exceeds the amounts needed to grease the palms of the politicians. (Israel Lobby is best case in point here, as is the defense industry, pharma, etc.)

AIPAC-boosting right-wing militant zionists are less than 0.5% of the U.S. population but take a lot of our taxes for Israel, and also skew our foreign policy.

Other cases: the Airline industry -- huge subsidies there, whereas Amtrak gets crap-all in comparison.

The Missile "defense" you mention is an excellent other case:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09338.pdf

Pork for defense.

If Iran wanted to nuke us, it would sail a boat over with a nuke, not commit national suicide by launching an ICBM with a return address. And anyway, Missile "defense" encourages the target state to stockpile more weapons in the knowledge that maybe 50% of them will be shot down.

Founding fathers encouraged us to petition the govt -- but not with these amounts of money, and not in this perverted institutional form. You want to petition the govt? Write your rep a letter.

Lobbying, in general, sucks and is counter to the aims of the founding fathers.

Lobbying, in general, sucks

Lobbying, in general, sucks and is counter to the aims of the founding fathers.

When you supress SPEEs they turn into Lobbies - distorted/masked/secretive/easily-manipulated-by-their-not-so-legal-leadership.

To eliminate all that pseudo structures, SPEEs' right to law have to be admitted to let them get organised according to their own constitutions legally. So that SPEEs know whom they are dealing with. At the moment Lobbies are wrestling with the State - waste of energy and time - rather than SPEEs competing with each other in real and legal terms to achieve the excellence.

Grand Sen~or.

Another

Prof:
Another such "dumb" lobby is the financial industry (and "rich" people in general): grease the palms of the politicians to get less corporate oversight and/or less taxes.

Benefits a small coterie and harms all of us -- as we have just witnessed.

On the drug war there is

On the drug war there is genuine debate but it is an issue that I think hasn't been adequately explored in the IR literature. Honestly unless tied to a sexy topic like Afghanistan I doubt it would be considered good dissertation topic leading to tenure at a top program. In regard to trade as most point out the benefits are too diffuse to create a clear grassroots movement in support the same is true as you noted with Cuba. This just shows the status quo bias of democracy. Lastly I would suggest climate change as a candidate for an issue where there is broad expert agreement yet a failure of collective action.

Good Start

Good first three choices. An industry has grown up around each of the policies which do their utmost to see that the gravy train keeps rolling by.

First of all Mr. Walt, this

First of all Mr. Walt, this is an article both interesting and important. There are a lot of topics where there is a small lobby, and all of them should get adressed by the general population.

No I'll try answer your third question.

I think it's not the system, it's the people. Will we ever learn? Can we ever learn? I mean as the general citizenry, of course individuals can learn. But if individual experience is not shared with future generations, it's almost worthless in the long term.

But all in all it boils down to this simple question:

How can citizens of relatively wealthy nations, where almost everyone has something to eat, wear and look forward to, engage in politics with the same zeal as do small special interest groups? Is it true that humans only then try to really change things when their own life is at stake?

good point

In order to democratize the special-interest groups such that their influence is commensurate to their size (a la one woman/man, one vote theory), there has to be an absolute purge of lobbying money into politics.

Money skews the one man/one vote ideal.

If you get, say, 10,000 signatures from your county to run for mayor you should get x$ from a govt. fund for your political campaign. No outside money, unless it is your own.

No special interest money in politics.

Special interest money

In theory, special interest money is not in itself a problem. Every dollar who comes from someone who contributes this dollar because he wants to support some democratic entity (a politician, a party, etc.) is special interest money.

Now I'm saying that the money coming from the 5% of citizens who want to subsidize farms would be no problem in a democracy, if the 95% of citizens who don't want to subsidize farms would also spend money.

But they by and large don't, that was what I meant. They don't participate strongly and convincingly in politics unless their very lifes are at stake. So how is it to be accomplished in modern wealthy states where seldom life itself is at stake that the general population makes it's voice heard?

How do you get the majority of citizens who are not truly represented by politicians to do something? How do you get your neighbours to lobby congress? How do you get the majority of Americans to outspend and outbully the small Cuban-American crowd Mr. Walt mentions on the particular issue of Cuban-American relations?

That said, your "no special interest money"-approach could still lead to a political process which is more democratic and more just than the current one.

1.) Farm Subsidies and

1.) Farm Subsidies and Agricultural Trade Barriers.

Like other industrial countries, the United States subsidizes a host of agricultural products and erects various trade barriers against foreign imports. This happens because the farm lobby is defending the narrow interests of the farm sector and many democratic systems give small groups (in this case farmers or agribusiness) disproportionate influence. (It's the usual story: A small group reaps the benefits of this policy while the costs are dispersed across the whole population). This policy makes food more expensive, encourages farmers to grow the wrong crops, squanders energy, and hinders economic development in poorer countries, thereby contributing to political instability. These policies also make it much harder to negotiate multilateral trade deals that would raise prosperity world-wide. So although nearly every detached observer thinks the policy is wrong, they also know that the political power of farm interests (both here and abroad) makes it excruciatingly difficult to change course.

This is all true, although I should point out that a nation has a legitimate strategic interest in ensuring its capability to feed itself. That said, it would help if they'd move away from trade barriers and towards subsidies, and get rid of some of the particularly egregious examples of protection (like the peanut and rice subsidies).


2.) The Cuba Embargo.

We all know the old line that insanity consists of doing something over and over again but expecting different results. By that standard the U.S. embargo on Cuba is demented. If an embargo was going to topple Castro's regime, it would be long gone. The current embargo has been in place for nearly five decades, persisting even after the Soviet Union had collapsed and when it is clear that an old and feeble Fidel poses no threat. Hardly anyone thinks it is the right policy anymore (if it ever was), but it remains in place because a small number of well-organized and politically active Cuban-Americans care about the issue and the rest of the country doesn't care enough to override their preferences. Because Florida is a swing state and its politicians remain sensitive to the Cuban-American lobby, a policy that has probably helped Castro stay in power remains in effect. Maybe this policy will finally change under Obama (or when Fidel dies), but don't bet on it.

It may change with the next generation of Cuban-Americans, who don't have the "we must fight Castro at all costs" mentality as the older ones.

That said, it's another type of ethnic lobby, although in reverse. I don't like ethnic lobbies.


3.) The "War on Drugs."

This one is a bit more controversial, in the sense that there is still a genuine debate on some of these issues. But there seems to be a growing consensus that the "war on drugs" (which we've been waging far longer than the "war on terrorism") is both ill-conceived and poorly executed. In the United States, as in many other countries, our anti-drug policies focus primarily on the supply-side: we go after growers, traffickers, dealers and users. And the United States is especially quick to incarcerate anyone who possesses narcotics, even for relatively minor offenses.

Indeed. Just look at Mexico, for example, as a result of this type of policy.

The results are almost certainly worse than the problem itself: our policy helps enrich drug lords and make it possible for them to destabilize whole governments, as they are now doing in Mexico and Afghanistan.

This is where it gets tricky, because not all of these drugs are alike. Marijuana, for example, should almost certainly be legalized (although subject to the same anti-smoking laws as tobacco, plus stronger DUI laws to help curb bad behavior while intoxicated). It's completely ludicrous to ban this drug when north of 1/3 of the American population has admitted to using it, large numbers of people use it without completely fucking up their lives, and it is certainly no more dangerous to your health than alcohol and tobacco. Coupled with the crime its ban creates, and the downside - greater usage and abusage of the drug - seem much less than the costs of prohibition.

Other drugs are trickier. I'd oppose the legalization of meth, for example (although not necessarily the de-criminalization), because the drug is horrifically addictive and powerful, as well as quite dangerous to its users. Cocaine has that problem as well, although cocaine was widely used in patent medicines at the turn of the century, so I'm not as concerned (and ending the whole international crime trafficking centered around it sounds pretty sweet). Perhaps with cocaine, you could restrict its usage to "coke dens" (places with licenses to sell the stuff, who would be required to have plans on hand to deal with potential overdoses and to cut people off when they've had too much), and severely punish anyone caught intoxicated by it outside of these places and their own homes.

Again, it is important to emphasize that this is a trade-off - history suggests that we're trading greater usage, abuse, and drug-related issues (like DUIs) for essentially crippling a whole brand of international crime. Make your choice.

Criminalizing narcotics possession has created a burgeoning prison population that is expensive to maintain and whose long-term incarceration produces a host of other social ills. (For a depressing analysis of some of them, see sociologist Bruce Western's Punishment and Equality in America). As The Economist recently argued, "the war on drugs has been a disaster, creating failed states in the developing world even as addiction has flourished in the rich world. By any sensible measure, this 100-year struggle has been illiberal, murderous and pointless." Reasonable people still disagree on what a better approach might be, but decriminalizing narcotics possession and focusing on education and treatment programs would cost less and probably leave us no worse off in terms of addiction and its consequences.

It depends on the drug, of course, and some would argue that with some of these drugs, the costs of greater usage from legalization would be higher. You'd probably see more DUIs, for example, with legalized marijuana, although perhaps you could couple legalization with severe punishment for the above and other abuse-related crimes.

But a politician who seriously proposed such a course of action would almost certainly face a firestorm of criticism, so the current failed policy is likely to continue more-or-less unchanged.

It's still a popular policy among many older folk, and in particular with the conservative religious population (many of whom see drug usage as a moral issue), and in the "concerned parents" category, who rightfully are concerned about what legalization might mean in terms of the spread of drugs into their communities and to their children.

low politics ?

I am not sure that it has a lot to do with the working of democracies. We might just be as bad as any other system to deal wih these issues.

It actually make sense from a Realist standpoint (or so I think), as it shows the big difference between high and low poltics. It's not that low politics don't matter, indeed they can be life-or-death issues for some countries (like the "war" on drugs in South America). The main thing is that they work differently because they don't matter as much for everybody, and you can avoid balancing effects.

Great powers can indulge themselves in silly domestic policies by (literally) externalising some of their social costs. At least, as long as it doesn't bother other major powers.

A good exemple is the missile defense program which was doing well when it was "just" a big waste of money. As soon as the US got serious about implementing it, Russia made clear that it will have none of it.

War on Drugs

It seems that Obama is already changing the policy on drugs:

Obama drops 'war on drugs' rhetoric for needle exchanges

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/16/drug-policy-obama-needle-exchange

Three Issues

1. Farm Subsidies

George W. Bush drove a stake through the heart of the WTO Doha round.

2. The Cuba Embargo.

All I know is that every church in town has sent planeloads of people on missions to Cuba.

3. The War on Drugs is a war on the Left.

Don't know about others, but the United States democratic system does not learn from its mistakes.

War on Drugs

We are at a point, where the drug debate has really become about whether we are wrong to make drugs illicit. Capitulation by any other name.

The "War on Drugs" has failed to live up to its name - and to blame it for impoverishment and erosion of state power in the third world - is wrong.

We need a real war on drugs, one that lives up to the term "war". Eradication of all poppies, and cocoa leaves in countries where their production cannot be controlled by the state.

And we need to reform law so that anyone snorting crack receives the same jail-sentence as selling it. The problem really is on the end user, who thinks he is the victim of dumb laws which prohibit an activity that "should" be legal.

Nothing could be further from the truth - but go and argue with the pot-smoking elites, and see where you go. Peter Hitchens is a great reference for this.

We need a real war on drugs,

We need a real war on drugs, one that lives up to the term "war". Eradication of all poppies, and cocoa leaves in countries where their production cannot be controlled by the state.

We tried that, with things like spraying plant-killers and firebombing coca plantations from the air. It didn't stop the production of cocaine, and in fact led to a reaction in the form of coca-growers' unions (like the one that Evo Morales was the head of before he became President of Bolivia). Unless you are advocating a violent incursion into these countries against coca production, damn the consequences, then this is a non-option.

And we need to reform law so that anyone snorting crack receives the same jail-sentence as selling it. The problem really is on the end user, who thinks he is the victim of dumb laws which prohibit an activity that "should" be legal.

Why? So we can double the size of the prison population again? I'm all for going after the users, but the last thing we need is another bloody moral crusade in the criminal arena.

For that matter, why the fuck should cocaine use be so penalized? I've pointed out that it is more dangerous than marijuana (and much more addictive), but it was widely used in patent medicines in the late 19th century, without a devastating effect on society. But it's hardly some massive threat to society, unless you are one of those religious fanatics who thinks it's a moral issue.

Nothing could be further from the truth - but go and argue with the pot-smoking elites, and see where you go.

They are stupid fucking laws. They were well-intentioned, but so are a lot of stupid things. There is literally no reason why pot should be banned and alcohol shouldn't, when alcohol is arguably more dangerous and addictive than pot.

disagree

Ok - we don't want to double the prison population? Then they should stop snorting. Their consumption, is someone else's death. Not to mention the young lives ruined by the perverse economic incentives of this crap.

As for pot - it is dangerous. There is a myth that it isn't. But London's hospitals are overwhelmed with pot related mental cases - and I am sure London isn't the only place. I don't care for the junkie argument.

As I said - I think Peter Hitchens at the Mail is good on this.

19th century did suffer from drug problems - in fact, the Manchus tried to keep the British East India company out for specifically that reason.

Medical usage of coco derivatives obviously continues.

We are on two sides of the spectrum.

Ok - we don't want to double

Ok - we don't want to double the prison population? Then they should stop snorting.

And if we want to stop obesity, people need to stop eating. Got any more less-than-useful comments, Captain Obvious?

Their consumption, is someone else's death. Not to mention the young lives ruined by the perverse economic incentives of this crap.

The full ban on cocaine has basically turned the trade on what is a dangerous addictive substance into a Get-Rich-Quick scheme that actually works for some kids in the inner cities, and is attractive to many more. Figure out a way to legalize it then minimize the damage of legalization (taxes are good, plus limitations on where you can use the drug), and you'll have wiped out a major sector of organized crime while starting the process towards eliminating the perverse effects the Drug War has had on the poor and inner city people.

As for pot - it is dangerous. There is a myth that it isn't. But London's hospitals are overwhelmed with pot related mental cases - and I am sure London isn't the only place. I don't care for the junkie argument.

Proof, please. I've heard so much bullshit from the Reefer Madness crowd that I'm immediately suspicious of claims of marijuana's exceptionally deadly nature. As is, I've seen no evidence that it is more dangerous than, say, alcohol or nicotine, and unlike the above, it isn't physically addictive. It can be psychologically addictive, but so can food.

As I said - I think Peter Hitchens at the Mail is good on this.

At the Daily Mail? He does not show up on their list of authors.

19th century did suffer from drug problems - in fact, the Manchus tried to keep the British East India company out for specifically that reason.

That was about opium - but I wasn't denying that it did and does cause problems. However, society continued to manage quite well, certainly enough that the issue of cocaine additives and possible addiction in that period aren't even remembered at this point by most of the population. That was my point - that legalization to some degree wouldn't have a crippling effect on society, and we'd see some very positive consequences in the destruction of a major criminal sector and corrupting factor in the inner cities.

Plus, if we're lucky, cocaine would start to edge out meth again. Meth tends to show up wherever cocaine and/or marijuana are nearly absent, and it is a much more dangerous drug (horribly addictive, for one).

We are on two sides of the spectrum.

Yeah, but your side has had the upper hand in law enforcement for the past 30 years, with relatively lame results. You destroy a center of production, and another emerges to replace it. You weaken the Colombian gangs, and the Mexican gangs replace them.

Lobbies

I hope that you can forgive some comments from a foreigner, who has spent a considerable amount of time working in your country. The US consititution must register as one of the greatest human achievements of the past millenium but at its heart there is an assumption about democracy. In a nutshell, in your great country anyone is free to raise money and buy a politician. This has served you well for more than 200 years making you the greatest nation the world has ever seen. It does, like all human creations have some weak points. Vulnerability to special interests, however, is the other side of the coin to protection of the legitimate interests of minorities. Perhaps this is just a dilemma that you have to live with.

This is your war. This is your war -- on drugs.

i find that I agree with Bret right down the line about the drug war.

Two additional points -- First, in the short run it would make sense to look at decriminalising drugs on an individual basis, starting with the ones that look the least harmful. That way we can do some good fairly quickly, while avoiding the worst harm.

Second, we don't have the concept of addiction thought out and we desperately need to do so.

Intellectuals should despise the idea of being dependent on anything. But where do you draw the line? There's heroin, which feels good at first but regular use dulls the senses until it eventually requires increasing doses not to feel bad. There's alcohol which feels good in carefully adjusted amounts but easily slips into feeling bad in the short run, which many people seem not to get addicted to at all. There's nicotine, one of the most addictive drugs of all. Caffeine, which many people cannot achieve withdrawal from and which many people claim is not any sort of problem for them to continue using in high doses. Ginseng, which some people use regularly and claim has health benefits. Insulin, which is necessary for some people's survival.

It doesn't make sense to say that type I diabetics are addicted to insulin, but it fits most definitions for addiction I've heard. People don't think of themselves as addicted to nicotine or caffeine though they are. What's the concept here?

I think the important idea about addiction is about tolerance. If you do something and it works for you, great! If you keep doing it and it doesn't work as well so you try something else, that's fine too.

If you keep doing it and it doesn't work as well so you do it more attempting to get the a little more effect, you're on the road to addiction.

The USA is addicted to the War on Drugs. The USA is also addicted to intervention in foreign nations. Etc.

We need to look carefully at when we're willing to chase the law of diminishing returns, and when we want to do something different. The more we can persuade US citizens they don't want addictive drugs, the better off we are. The more we do to force US citizens not to do things they are actually addicted to doing, the harder it gets and the more sacrifices we have to make to continue our addiction to control.

Stupid Policies

It's not just that the policies are stupid, it is that our experts tell us DON'T DO IT but Washington does it anyway (e.g. Charles Wilson, Arabists warning about Wahhabis, etc.) The policies are willfully stoopid.

I agree up to a point. On all

I agree up to a point. On all three examples, there are counter-arguments that you're downplaying, although I think your arguments are more persuasive than the counters.

I'm not sure what it says about our democracy as opposed to what it says about our education system.

The problem may be less with the ideas behind the policy than with the fundamentalism with which they end up being imposed. For example, we know too little about the mechanisms of addiction to totally end the war on drugs, but we've taken it too far with various aspects such as minimum sentencing. Similarly, with ag subsidies, we have a national interest in maintaining that area of our economy for national security reasons, just as we do with our energy and industrial sectors, but it seems to have been taken to an extreme (and similarly, we have an interest in limiting trade with a communist dictatorship off our shores, but we've gone to an unhelpful extreme when that regime is still in power 50 years later).

So, the problem may lie with our system's inability to make incremental changes to these policies; which may derive from a class of gutless politicians unwilling or unable to explain things in shaded terms to a poorly educated populace.

In this framework, there are many other policies that can be added to your list, such as our immigration policies, gun policies, financial oversight, and perhaps most notably, our energy policies, in which the fundamentalism that our system draws us to on these issues from both sides ends up destroying the reasonable basis for the policies and our ability to make incremental changes when presented with new data.

For example, we know too

For example, we know too little about the mechanisms of addiction to totally end the war on drugs, but we've taken it too far with various aspects such as minimum sentencing.

We do know that they are different in many ways; marijuana is psychologically addictive, but not physically addictive in the way that alcohol and nicotine are (alcohol withdrawal can actually kill you). Cocaine is very addictive, and meth horribly so. We need to come up with different policies for each of these, and in the case of some of them, legalization may be called for (in marijuana's case, for example).

We also know that "kill the fuckers" style of slamming down more and more brutal punishment doesn't really help. It may keep some consumers from trying it out, but it also generates violent crime, and makes the users that do exist more desperate unless they are already rich.

Missile Defense

Missile defense is in a different catagory. The technology doesn't work. Therefore, it is a waste of money and a squandering of political and diplomatic good will. Period. Show me the constituency?

Your main point is bullshit;

Your main point is bullshit; various components of the system, especially the sea-based Aegis III system, have shown up very well in testing.

I suppose the constituency would be people who actually bother to look more into the issue than the newspaper and the Huffington Post.

Missile defense works so

Missile defense works so poorly that just about every advanced country is copying it.

After a 3rd successful test of its missile defense system, India now claims it will have a missile defense shield within two years, but hey, what do they know, right?

Or the Japanese, for that

Or the Japanese, for that matter. Or the Russians, who have one around Moscow (although they've let that slide a bit). Or the Israelis.

Democracy

I want to focus on question number 3, which asks "if a lot of stupid policies persist even when it is obvious they make little sense, what does that say about the capacity of democratic systems to learn from their mistakes?"

As several readers have stated before me, the power of the lobbies clearly has a direct effect on the changeability of a policy. However, I believe that with the right leader in place, we can change these misheaded policies. If these policies are so wrong and clearly wrong, then why are they so difficult to change? Democratic theory would teach that if enough people want something changed, then it will be changed. Some seem to reject this optimistic view of democracy and decide that our democracy does not work this way. However, I think the problem lies not in the people, but the in the politicians.

I believe that if a politician got up there and clearly explained why some of our policies are wrong, then many people would agree. The American people are smart and an intelligent politician should be able to persuade us of what is the correct course. Change needs a leader to galvanize the people behind a proper course of action. Of course there will be challenges involved, but if these policies are wrong as assumed, then there will be a vast majority of people to force change. Are we so weak that we allow "powerful" lobbies to control our politics?

Of course, the reality is much more complex than that. After all, if it were so easy, why havent any politicians started fighting for what is right? I think that this is the pertinent question, and at the moment, I cannot think of a proper answer. All I can come up with currently is how politicians sometimes forget that they simply need to persuade the people, and instead get caught up in the media and other venues.

Cuba

To an outsider, not an American that is, this policy which has impacted Cuba but not brought it to its knees, has more or less made the country stand still in time. Embargos do that particularly when the country is primarily an agricultural country and one which has not been able to rise out of that environment through scientific research or manufacturing pursuits. What this has achieved for the US is hard to see outside of the obvious threats of the ex-Cubans now weaving their hatred of that little island, once their homeland, into their lives and of course, the lives of their children while making successive US governments bow down to their pressure. I have always considered it to be a very sad state of affairs, born out of an inability by the US to accept a judgement by a majority of a people to supplant yet another US supported dictator, standard fare for the US, go in a direction that was not to their liking. Sadly the history of South America is full of examples of this level of arrogance evident today in attitudes to countries like Venezuela. That continent is now a graveyard for millions of people over time who have had a different viewpoint than various US governments. Chile was an action that the rest of the world will never forget, forcing that country as it did to accept a US supported reign of terror from a real dictator, Pinochet, for 16 years. These are the actions of a bullying superpower which has generated a lingering dislike by the world for years and which is never likely to change. Sadly this misplaced policy has been continued by both parties to their discredit.
From Castro's viewpoint and supported by many documentaries showing the hatred still evident in the Cuban residents of Miami, many such people quite obviously had they nefarious activities brought to a sharp end with Castro's rise to power and therefore conveneiently represent the change to a socialist government/dictatorship, call it what you will, as a desperate mistake, contrary of course to the rest of the Cuban population at that time.
Cuba is just another black mark on the Foreign Policy of the US one which should really be corrected under an Obama Presidency. But then this will depend on the relative importance of Miami on the political maps of the two parties won't it? Life goes on, as it always has, ad nauseum.
It is difficult to look kindly on arrogance, hypocrisy and injustice whenever and wherever it raises its ugly head.

Peace on the Home Front

Debaters debate the two wars as if Nixon’s civil war on Woodstock Nation did not yet run amok. The witch-hunt against the half-a-million strong witches assembled in August 1969 hasn’t been and can’t be good for America, the world-leader in percentile behind bars. If we are all about spreading liberty abroad, then why mix the message at home? Peace on the home front would enhance credibility.

America should stop throwing good money after bad. The witch-hunt doctor’s Rx is for every bust to numerate a bigger tax-load over a smaller denominator of payers. Spend more on prisons than on schools. My witch’s second opinion is to grow your own. More consumer discretionary dollars will stimulate the rest of the economy when they are not depleted by prohibition’s black market.

Only a clause about interstate commerce provides a shred of constitutionality. The policy on the number-one cash crop in the land is no taxation; yes eradication; but money to frustrate enforcement grows on trees. The authors of the Constitution never intended to divert tax revenue to outlaws. America rejected prohibition, but its back. Swat teams don’t seem to need no stinking amendment.

The demonized substances never had their day in court. Nixon promised to supply supporting evidence later. Later, the Commission evidence didn’t support, but no matter. The witch-hunt was on. No amendments can assure due-process under an anti-science law that never had any due-process itself. Science hailed LSD as a drug with breakthrough potential, until the CSA (Controlled Substances Act of 1970) halted all research. Marijuana has no medical use, period. Lives are flushed down expensive tubes.

The RFRA (Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993) makes an exception to the CSA allowing the Native American Church to eat peyote. A specific church membership should not be prerequisite for Americans to obtain their birthright freedom of religion. Denial of entheogen sacrament to any American, for mediation of communion twixt the soul and the source of souls, violates the First Amendment.

Freedom of speech presupposes freedom of thought. The Constitution doesn’t enumerate a governmental power to embargo diverse states of mind. How and when did government usurp this power to coerce conformity? Politicians who would limit cognitive liberty lack jurisdiction.

Common Law must hold that the people are the legal owners of their own bodies. Socrates advocates knowing your self. Mortal law should not presume to thwart the intelligent design that molecular keys unlock spiritual doors. Those who appreciate their own free choice of personal path in life should not deny self-exploration to seekers. The right to the pursuit of happiness is supposed to be inalienable by government.

Simple majorities in each house could put repeal of the CSA on the president’s desk. The books have ample law on them without the CSA. Americans are already liable for damages when they screw-up. The usual caveats remain in effect. Strong medicine requires prescription. Employees can be fired for poor job performance. No harm, no foul; and no excuse, either. Replace the war on drugs with a frugal, constitutional, science-based, drugs policy.

Farm Subsidy Question

I generally agree with that all three of these issues are short-sighted. Debate has been swelling about the removal of the electoral college in favor of the popular vote a move which many believe would significantly weaken the influence of these special interest groups.

Additionally, and I haven't given much thought to this, is there a strategic advantage to a nation maintaining at least the capacity for farming. In a world war scenario where international trade and shipping are significantly weakened I can see the how such capabilities would be very valuable, even if they are never utilized. I'm just throwing this out there to get additional thoughts. So... thoughts?

That's why I'd be in favor of

That's why I'd be in favor of subsidizing American agriculture on a small number of vital food crops, like corn and wheat. Even then, I'd be willing to go one-to-one with some other countries in a trade agreement on this issue, and I'd rather have subsidies than tariffs, price floors, and that type of bullshit, since subsidies don't distort the market as much.

How about a subsidy that

How about a subsidy that would only apply to american-grown foods that were american-consumed? So we maintain our ability to grow our own food, but we don't subsidise US agribusiness to dump food onto other countries.

Or here's a sort of dream I noticed: We could establish the custom that people might take a year off occasionally to grow food. During that year they live off charity, and they do what they can to grow food -- they find land that they will be allowed to grow it on, they use donated or loaned equipment and maintain it with donated or loaned tools, they get their food to people who can use it on donated or free space on trains or trucks etc, they set up food kitchens in donated space, and they feed anybody for free.

The central concept is that our market system promotes efficiency at some things, but it might be efficient at doing the wrong things for feeding the population. An alternative that was built on custom plus whatever-worked might fit our needs better -- and we'd have a market system to back it up, too.

How about a subsidy that

How about a subsidy that would only apply to american-grown foods that were american-consumed? So we maintain our ability to grow our own food, but we don't subsidise US agribusiness to dump food onto other countries.

That would be a major pain in the ass to enforce and set up. Not to mention the question of how you would do it - are you going to record supermarket purchases of produce, send the data to the government, then distribute subsidies accordingly?

Or here's a sort of dream I noticed: We could establish the custom that people might take a year off occasionally to grow food.

Rather unrealistic, to say the least. Not to mention that it is questionable as to how it would affect the food supply; your average commercial farm is a business run by experienced people doing their work. Your idea would basically amount to a bunch of amateurs planting bigger gardens, if I read you right.

What about North Korea policy?

This may be a tenuous argument but I'll make it anyways.

Recent U.S. policy toward North Korea has ranged from engagement+carrots (Agreed Framework) to engagement+sticks (maintenance of sanctions) to hostile neglect (Axis of evil). Although it appears that recent engagement strategies have produced better outcomes than the hostile strategy used during Bush's early tenure, even engagement in the form of 6-Party Talks have provided few tangible benefits. In 2009, we are still basically in the same position as we were in 1991 when the nuclear facilities at Yongbyon became widely recognized as a threat.

We can draw some analogies to North Korea using both Cuba and Iran. First, like Cuba, North Korea hasn't collapsed from the decades of sanctions -- but the people have continued to suffer. Second, like Iran, it seems that the U.S. hasn't sufficiently considered North Korea's own security interests. Since the collapse of the Soviet bloc in the late 1980s, North Korea has been without protection so it is understandable from their perspective why they would want to develop a nuclear deterrent.

One option that the U.S. should consider pursuing, and I readily admit that there would be serious opposition, is to alleviate North Korea's security concerns immediately through a non-aggression agreement in addition to a formal peace treaty that would replace the 1953 armistice. Of course, this move wouldn't eliminate the threat of nuclear weapon or technology proliferation but it would reduce the basis for North Korea to maintain a nuclear weapons program. This being said, it would be difficult to imagine a scenario where North Korea willingly gives up its weapons program -- and we may have to accept a reality where North Korea is a nuclear weapon state. But bringing North Korea into the fold as a responsible stakeholder in the international community would go a long ways toward reducing overall tension in Northeast Asia.

to hump & hemp are human

in the present emergency
both economic & ecologic
as we prioritize our many simultaneous triages
so as not to waste vital effort or time on the less important & even pointless or imaginary struggles
it should come as a relief to actually
s e e
&
h e a r
& notice
as the above rubric truism observes
that some of our most dreadful wars
certainly those against sexual immorality & marijuana at the very least
are unutterably ill founded & indeed inhuman
even if they werent already unstrategic

& moreover
in the land of the free & home of the brave
such wars are unamerican as well

nay
they are anti american

& anti human of us yet too
in fact

hopeless wasted wars against our own dear human nature & character
as we struggle & straggle to attend to our actual human needs & existence

hmmmm