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I'm not entirely sure what to make of the events surrounding the UN General Assembly, and especially President Obama's ultimately inconsequential meetings with Israeli Prime MInister Netanyahu and Palestinian President Abbas, followed by his statements on these issues during his speech to the General Assembly.

From a short-term, tactical perspective, Netanyahu has clearly won the first round. Obama had demanded a complete halt to settlement building and had told his audience in Cairo last June that "the settlements must stop." Netanyahu refused, hung tough through the summer and Obama eventually backed down. Indeed, the United States is now helping bury the Goldstone Report on Gaza and making it abundantly clear that Israeli intransigence won't affect the "special relationship."

Yet Obama also reiterated his commitment to two states in forceful terms, and said it was time for the parties to commence permanent status negotiations (something Netanyahu has resisted in the past). This development has led shrewd observers like Daniel Levy, M.J. Rosenberg, and FP's Marc Lynch to offer a guardedly optimistic interpretation of the events in New York, suggesting that Netanyahu may have won a tactical victory but suffered a strategic setback. Phil Weiss offers a similar appraisal on the Gaza report, suggesting that Obama and his team decided to let the Gaza report fall by the wayside in order to win over the center of the American Jewish community and put themselves in a better position to broker a two-state solution down the road. In essence, the optimists see Obama as playing a longer game, refusing to get bogged down by what are ultimately tactical issues and focused on the ultimate objective.

By contrast, Israeli observers like Uri Avnery and Gideon Levy offered far more pessimistic appraisals. Their early hopes that Obama and Mitchell would use U.S. leverage to halt the settlements and force Israel to disgorge the territories have been disappointed -- at least for now -- and they are clearly worried that Obama will prove to be all talk and no action. They believe that a two-state solution will simply not occur absent strong U.S. pressure, and they are beginning to doubt that Obama is up to the task.

None of us knows what Obama and his team will do in the future, or how subsequent events may alter the calculations and strategies of the key players. I lean toward the pessimistic side, however, for several reasons. First, Obama has yet to go beyond lofty rhetoric in his approach to this problem, and he has yet to display any serious backbone when it comes to dealing with the Israel lobby. He tossed advisor Rob Malley over the side during the campaign, distanced himself from Zbigniew Brzezinski, remained studiously silent about Gaza during the fighting, and allowed hardliners to torpedo the appointment of Charles Freeman to the National Intelligence Council during his first month in office. It is entirely possible that he'll get tough when the crunch comes; but there's no sign of it so far.

Second, if Obama couldn't even convince Netanyahu to agree to a temporary settlement freeze (and remember, virtually every country in the world regards all settlement building as illegal under international law), then how is he going to persuade him to agree to the terms that everyone knows are the building blocks of a deal? Specifically, how will he get Netanyahu to agree to: 1) borders that provide for a viable Palestinian state, 2) a Palestinian capital in a substantial portion of East Jerusalem, 3) a mutually acceptable arrangement over the holy sites in the Old City, 4) some sort of agreement on the refugee issue (aka "right of return") and 5) the removal of a substantial number of the 300,000 Israelis who are now living outside the 1967 borders?  Maybe there's a rabbit that Obama will pull out of his hat, but it's hard to see where it will come from right now.

Third, as Matt Duss noted yesterday on his own blog, Obama is likely to face something of a credibility problem going forward.  The next time he tries to press Netanyahu, Bibi's hardline advisors are bound to tell him "relax, stick to your guns, just drag things out and eventually the President will blink." In other words, having lost Round 1, Obama and Mitchell will have to work twice as hard to convince Jerusalem that they mean business next time around.

I'd be delighted to be proven wrong about all this, of course, and I did find some of the President's words encouraging (I usually do). I suggested in the Washington Post last week that he needs to use his bully pulpit more effectively, and start explaining to the American people why a two-state solution is in everyone's interest, and the sooner the better. Some of his remarks pointed in that direction, but he's going to have to do a lot more to win enough of the right people over.

JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images

 
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SIR_MIXXALOT

4:55 PM ET

September 24, 2009

And hopefully some American

And hopefully some American academics will display honest outrage the fact that it has been revealed that our (U.S.) munitions were used to kill civilians, women and children and not just advocate using the Goldstone report as a political bargaining chip.

 

DAVE123

5:13 PM ET

September 24, 2009

"Israel bad. Palestinians

"Israel bad. Palestinians faultless. Jewish anti-zionist bloggers agree. Anti-Zionist and left wing Israeli academics agree. Whole world(tm) agrees." Read their analysis. I have none.

Why don't you just save time and post this every other day?

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

5:29 PM ET

September 24, 2009

No Israel very bad.

No Israel very bad. Palestinians bad too.

But we don't give Palestinians $3billion in military help to kill Israeli civilians.

Get a clue at the injustice being done with your taxes.

 

DAVID IN DC

5:15 PM ET

September 24, 2009

...how will he get Netanyahu

...how will he get Netanyahu to agree to: 1) borders that provide for a viable Palestinian state, 2) a Palestinian capital in a substantial portion of East Jerusalem, 3) a mutually acceptable arrangement over the holy sites in the Old City, 4) some sort of agreement on the refugee issue (aka "right of return") and 5) the removal of a substantial number of the 300,000 Israelis who are now living outside the 1967 borders?

General comments about these and the implication that these would be more difficult for Netanyahu than a settlement freeze.

1) Borders will be the easy part. Borders is the issue lurking behind the whole settlement dustup. Most, if not all, observers understand there will be a territory "swap" in any final agreement and that most of the settlement blocs will remain with Israel. Past Palestinian negotiating teams were OK with this formulation. If the borders are pretty much set (and I think most could draw a pretty good approximation of where they will ultimately lie), Israelis building on what will be their side of it doesn't seem like a good reason to hold up negotiations.

2) IMO this won't happen under Netanyahu. Obama should strategize how he will make progress on the other issues and move on this one when Netanyahu ultimately gets voted out.

3) Unless things have changed, the Palestinian religious authority alreasy has control over the temple mount/dome of the rock and have had for a long time. If there are other individual sites to be negotiated, I can't see it as being a thornier issue than that one. I don't see this as a sticking point in negotiations and it's not clear how this issue would be more difficult than a settlement freeze.

4) Another item that has an obvious solution - the Palestinians will get a "right of return" to a future Palestine and compensation. It is one of the biggest sticking points of the negotiations, but Netanyahu position would not differ from that of any potential Israeli leader. Again, it's not clear how this issue would be more difficult than a settlement freeze.

5) Basically, see #1. The large majority of this population will be absorbed by Israel. As for the rest, they have to move back and the settlements torn down. This will be difficult for Netanyahu to do and may have to wait for the next PM. It has been done before, in the distant past and quite recently, so the precedent is there.

 

BRETT

9:17 PM ET

September 24, 2009

1) Borders will be the easy

1) Borders will be the easy part. Borders is the issue lurking behind the whole settlement dustup. Most, if not all, observers understand there will be a territory "swap" in any final agreement and that most of the settlement blocs will remain with Israel. Past Palestinian negotiating teams were OK with this formulation. If the borders are pretty much set (and I think most could draw a pretty good approximation of where they will ultimately lie), Israelis building on what will be their side of it doesn't seem like a good reason to hold up negotiations.

It creates a credibility problem, though. The Palestinians can look at the increasing number of settlers in certain areas and think, "Why should I trust the Israelis? They're just using the 'no bars on settlement growth' claim to grab as much land as possible before the borders are settled, and will then pressure us to trade that land for worthless Negev desert land."

To be honest, I'd prefer it at this point for the Palestinian side to simply declare an independent Palestine with their hopeful borders, then get into the process of negotiating what those exact borders will be along with a total freeze on settlement construction (much less Israeli government support for settlement construction).

5) Basically, see #1. The large majority of this population will be absorbed by Israel. As for the rest, they have to move back and the settlements torn down. This will be difficult for Netanyahu to do and may have to wait for the next PM. It has been done before, in the distant past and quite recently, so the precedent is there.

I figure you can probably buy them out of their housing in the settlements, since about 90-95% of them moved to the settlements because of cheap (usually subsidized) housing.

 

DAVID IN DC

11:58 PM ET

September 24, 2009

The Palestinians can look at

The Palestinians can look at the increasing number of settlers in certain areas and think, "Why should I trust the Israelis? They're just using the 'no bars on settlement growth' claim to grab as much land as possible before the borders are settled, and will then pressure us to trade that land for worthless Negev desert land."

If the footprint isn't expanding, then it doesn't seem like much of an issue. For this to have any potential effect, you would need to have an area in an existing settlement, in one of the settlement blocs, on the border, not populated, that would be handed back in the event of no additional population added, and is being built on. I'm not sure this situation exists at all. The settlements in the blocs are pretty well defined.

Additionally, one would think that those who think this would want to get the borders settled sooner rather than later. However, we see the Palestinians avoiding negotiations rather than pushing for them. This despite the fact that they have an American President who is very committed to a Palestinian state within two years. An American President who may very well be approaching his final year in office at the end of the two year period.

I figure you can probably buy them out of their housing in the settlements, since about 90-95% of them moved to the settlements because of cheap (usually subsidized) housing.

I don't think one can understate what a traumatic event this will be in Israel. Necessary, but not easy by any stretch.

 

BRETT

9:14 PM ET

September 28, 2009

If the footprint isn't

If the footprint isn't expanding, then it doesn't seem like much of an issue. For this to have any potential effect, you would need to have an area in an existing settlement, in one of the settlement blocs, on the border, not populated, that would be handed back in the event of no additional population added, and is being built on. I'm not sure this situation exists at all. The settlements in the blocs are pretty well defined.

It's an issue to the Palestinian side.

Additionally, one would think that those who think this would want to get the borders settled sooner rather than later. However, we see the Palestinians avoiding negotiations rather than pushing for them. This despite the fact that they have an American President who is very committed to a Palestinian state within two years. An American President who may very well be approaching his final year in office at the end of the two year period.

If the Israelis are continuing to expand and consolidate settlement ground while negotiations on borders are going on, then its arguably worse for the Palestinian leadership than if they aren't negotiating at all. The former allows the Israelis to say they are "doing something" while the Palestinian leadership gets stuck trying to explain why they're talking to them while the Israelis continue to create facts on the ground.

I don't think one can understate what a traumatic event this will be in Israel. Necessary, but not easy by any stretch.

And you accuse the Palestinians for being unreasonable on the settlements?

 

NUR AL-CUBICLE

12:56 AM ET

September 25, 2009

No bars on settlement growth

Indeed, the IDF raided Orient House about 10 years ago and destroyed every deed and public record of Palestinian property on the West Bank so there would be no bar to settlement. And by the way, doesn't it take nerve to use the word, settlement, as if those confiscated Palestinian lands were an uninhabited outback.

 

BRETT

9:16 PM ET

September 28, 2009

It's like how white colonists

It's like how white colonists were called "settlers" in the US. "Invaders" and "squatters" would be more appropriate, since in both cases they're building colonies often on land owned by another group of people against their will, but apparently that's not politically correct.

 

SEANMCBRIDE

5:21 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Obama vs. Netanyahu and AIPAC -- No Contest

How can Obama possibly stand up to the Israeli government when AIPAC exerts even greater influence in the Democratic Party (and especially in Democratic Party finance) than it does in the Republican Party, and when
Obama is surrounded on all sides by neoliberals (i.e., neoconservatives in leftist guise) like Dennis Ross, Rahm Emanuel and Richard Holbrooke? There are powerful Democrats who would more quickly attack Obama than they would lock horns with Netanyahu and Lieberman. In other words, one should be very pessimistic about these developments. Even if Obama did possess some backbone (and he appears to possess very little), he is powerless against the influence of the Israel lobby within his own party. Netanyahu, the prime minister of one of the most right-wing regimes in the world, enjoys more control over the U.S. Congress and the Democratic Party than does Obama. It is clear that Israeli society as a whole intends to keep the settlements forever, and to continue to expand them. They hold Obama in contempt.

 

DAVE123

5:26 PM ET

September 24, 2009

seanmcbride is right. His

seanmcbride is right. His views are all explained and well documented here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

 

SEANMCBRIDE

5:32 PM ET

September 24, 2009

On Failing Political Movements

One of the key reasons that the Israeli government and the Israel lobby have lost so much influence all around the world in recent years, and especially among well-educated sectors of Europe and the United States, is because they tend to rely heavily on "arguments" like the one you just made -- personal attacks and smears, and especially wild accusations of antisemitism. Political movements which are standing on solid ground, and which have facts, reason and morality on their side, do not stoop to these methods. It's a sign of desperation and general intellectual bankruptcy.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

6:18 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Dude, get a clue

Political movements which are standing on solid ground, and which have facts, reason and morality on their side, do not stoop to these methods. It's a sign of desperation and general intellectual bankruptcy.

You offered no facts, no reason and no morality in your post. Just attacks and smears. It's you who are intellectually bankrupt.

Dave123 was just lampooning you, which was deserved. That he used the anti-Semitic text, while over the top, doesn't invalidate his point.

 

BRETT

9:20 PM ET

September 28, 2009

The reason why the Israelis

The reason why the Israelis take so much flack is because

A)genuine anti-semitism, particularly in the Arab World,

B)the fact that the Palestinian movement has become associated with the greater Anti-Colonialism movement that swept the Third World and continues to affect its political views,

C)They've committed some high profile attacks that killed a large number of civilians, over what is often seen as a minuscule offense, and

D)Over the past 20 years, they've continued to build and consolidate settlements, often on what land remains to the Palestinians. Since the Palestinian issue affects most of the Arab states (who often have Palestinian refugees or inhabitants), and since Al-Jazeera and other networks ensure that any abuse of the Palestinians is very high-profile in the Arab World, this means that it continues to generate animosity against Israel, which the Arab states then push in the UN.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

5:36 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Gideon is right

Obama needs to turn things upside-down and break with convention. That's why he was elected. Two decisive steps would change things completely: an American effort to introduce Hamas into the negotiations and pressure on Israel to end the matter of the occupation. Simplistic? Perhaps, but the complex and gradual solutions haven't gotten us anywhere up to now. Like it or not, without Hamas peace is not possible. The fact that Obama has put his trust only in Abbas' Fatah has guaranteed failure, which was foreseeable. History has taught us that you make peace with your worst enemy, not with those who are seen as collaborators by their own people.

You also don't make peace with half a people, in half of the territory. Obama didn't even try to break this unnecessary spell and automatically went, unbelievably, down the path of his predecessor, George W. Bush. The president who was willing to engage North Korea and Iran and dares Venezuela and Cuba didn't even think about entering negotiations with Hamas. Why is it okay to talk to Iran but not to Hamas? Obama, too, thinks Hamas is fit for negotiations only over the fate of a single soldier, Gilad Shalit, but not over the fate of two peoples.

The second step, which is no less essential, is applying pressure on Israel. Given Israel's total dependence and in the face of its blindness to the price of the occupation, Obama's friendship with Israel is actually to be judged by the steps he would seemingly take against Israel. As Israel's isolation in the world only grows, and the danger of Iran threatens the country, Israel's best friend must pressure its ally and save it from itself. Instead, we got another condemnation of the Goldstone Commission report, this time from the new American ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, who had held the promise of major change.

 

SEANMCBRIDE

5:52 PM ET

September 24, 2009

A Cataclysmic Failure of American Mideast Policy

Obama is a single individual up against a large army of passionate, well-organized and exceedingly well-funded individuals who would harass and block him every step of the way he if tried to pursue the policies you suggest. Prediction: the situation is going to continue to deteriorate, with disastrous consequences for American interests. It is likely that the United States is facing a cataclysmic collapse of its Mideast policy for the last six decades or so, and perhaps sooner than later. All the vectors are pointing to that outcome.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

5:39 PM ET

September 24, 2009

One state solution

In the end, ~150 years from now, we will have the one state solution. All else is fantasy: an apartheid Zionist state on Arab territory is not sustainable without $5billion from the US every year. And even with that, it is not.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

6:29 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Too far, SirMix

Predicting what will happen in 150 years is the fantasy. Also, no one is claiming that "an apartheid Zionist state on Arab territory" is sustainable, even with massive amounts of US dollars. This comment is ridiculous.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

9:30 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Your uninvited commentaries

Your uninvited commentaries on everyone's posts are just that -- uninvited. Go to wikipedia or something, else contribute to the discussion.

I stand by my comment.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

9:56 PM ET

September 24, 2009

What?!? This is a blog comment thread!

You must have been offended by the "ridiculous" comment. I'll take it back and apologize. I'm sorry.

Now, what's wrong with replying to comments? As far as this one goes: great, you stand by your comment, I disagree, yipee. Go ahead and reply to my comments:

Reading Hu Jintao's Mind

Rapid Reaction Post

Wait, that would inviting you to comment - instead, I dare you! Or better yet, reply to posts on my blog.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

9:56 PM ET

September 24, 2009

You are wrong to pretend you

You are wrong to pretend you are the editor of the blog.

Go to wikipedia and pitch you tent there.

 

COURTNEYME109

11:10 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Direct Hit!

Fire For Effect

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

5:46 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Uri is right

IS THERE no limit to the wiles of those dastardly anti-Semites?

Now they have decided to slander the Jews with another blood libel. Not the old accusation of slaughtering Christian children to use their blood for baking Passover matzoth, as in the past, but of the mass slaughter of women and children in Gaza.

And who did they put at the head of the commission which was charged with this task? Neither a British Holocaust-denier nor a German neo-Nazi, nor even an Iranian fanatic, but of all people a Jewish judge who bears the very Jewish name of Goldstone (originally Goldstein, of course). And not just a Jew with a Jewish name, but a Zionist, whose daughter, Nicole, is an enthusiastic Zionist who once “made Aliyah” and speaks fluent Hebrew. And not just a Jewish Zionist, but a South African who opposed apartheid and was appointed to the country’s Constitutional Court when that system was abolished.

All this in order to defame the most moral army in the world, fresh from waging the most just war in history!

Richard Goldstone is not the only Jew manipulated by the world-wide anti-Semitic conspiracy. Throughout the three weeks of the Gaza War, more than 10 thousand Israelis demonstrated against it again and again. They were photographed carrying signs saying “End the massacre in Gaza”, “Stop the war crimes”’ “Israel commits war crimes”, “Bombing civilians is a war crime”. They chanted in unison: “Olmert, Olmert, it is true – They’re waiting in The Hague for you!”

Who would have believed that there are so many anti-Semites in Israel?!

THE OFFICIAL Israeli reaction to the Goldstone report would have been amusing, if the matter had not been so grave.

Except for the “usual suspects” (Gideon Levy, Amira Hass and their ilk), the condemnation of the report was unanimous, total and extreme, from Shimon Peres, that advocate of every abomination, down to the last scribbler in the newspapers.

Nobody, but nobody, dealt with the subject itself. Nobody examined the detailed conclusions. With such an anti-Semitic smear, there is no need for that. Actually, there is no need to read the report at all.

 

COURTNEYME109

5:47 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Abu Mazen/M'moud Abbas' Blackberry Hacked!

Diary for that day included a delightful little ditty:

"Everything Does Not Suck
Everything Does Not Suck
Everything Does Not Suck
Everything Does"

 

DAVE123

6:33 PM ET

September 24, 2009

I am going to read the "Tea

I am going to read the "Tea Leaves" for Professor Walt.

I see something... Wait...wait....it is coming in clear now...

I foresee that the Palestinians will immediately go back on their agreement to negotiate without preconditions the very next day.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-09-24-voa20.cfm

 

JAIBRIOLQOXII

9:25 PM ET

September 24, 2009

No Distinction Between Local and Global Politics

I simply can't take organizations like J-Street or arguments like that of Phil Weiss (the deal) seriously

  1. as long as Israel Lobby organizations are abusing Arab and Muslim American academics or leaders (In Re: The persistence of the Massad question) and
  2. as long as the FBI, the Treasury and the DOJ is working to throw as many Arab and Muslim Americans into jail on trumped up charges with all sorts of Constitutional violations ([Khaleej Times] US Charities Paying for Sending Aid to Palestinians, New York "Terror Plot" Another Government Provocateured Set-Up).

All citizens should feel threatened by these ongoing Israel Lobby projects in manipulating the American political, educational, and legal system.

Sorry for the duplication below. Firefox did something strange.

 

GF

9:14 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Washington Post article

Glad to see the Post deigned to publish your article. How about the NYT ? Anyway, keep up the good work. Hopefully, the American people will figure out that sending funds to Israel is not money well spent.

 

JAIBRIOLQOXII

9:24 PM ET

September 24, 2009

Wrong to Separate Local and International Politics

I simply can't take organizations like J-Street or arguments like that of Phil Weiss (the deal) seriously

  1. as long as Israel Lobby organizations are abusing Arab and Muslim American academics or leaders (In Re: The persistence of the Massad question) and
  2. as long as the FBI, the Treasury and the DOJ is working to throw as many Arab and Muslim Americans into jail on trumped up charges with all sorts of Constitutional violations ([Khaleej Times] US Charities Paying for Sending Aid to Palestinians, New York "Terror Plot" Another Government Provocateured Set-Up).

All citizens should feel threatened by these ongoing Israel Lobby projects in manipulating the American political, educational, and legal system.

 

RAF3

7:29 AM ET

September 25, 2009

I agree with most of what you

I agree with most of what you say. Likewise, I support Israel and am a realist. But I cannot for the life of me remember a time in which you explain why or why not no one in Israel seems to understand the conundrum they are in. I have heard you say (I believe) that Netanyahu is a prime candidate for a Nixon-to-China type overture. But of course he is going to act the way he has and say the things he has said, because the Israeli political system is more fragile and prone to disruption than Italy's; were he to act differently, we would no longer have a Prime Minister Netanyahu because he would be booted from office.

Ultimately, my questions are: 1) why do you believe Netanyahu (and Israel for that matter) don't understand the predicament they are in; and 2) how are Netanyahu's statements incompatible with the peace process based upon the domestic political realities he faces?

I watched with dismay as Freeman was shot down as head of the NSC. I've watched reactionary Likudists who have never lived in Israel support movements and policies that undermine Israel's security, well-being and long-term prospects. But I have the utmost respect for you and would like to know why realism doesn't seem to apply to Israeli leaders, in your opinion. And, ultimately, if it doesn't, how this would negatively affect American policy in the region. I'd truly love to see Israel thrive and prosper in a peaceful environment, but if their leaders can't figure out where their state is headed NOW, then why bother?

 

KEYRAN

9:06 AM ET

September 25, 2009

A short reply to a long question

I was in Israel for 7 days in 2008 and was warmly received especially by the young in or near the University of Tel Aviv.

Everyone assumed that the smiling Irish-American was a Jew--which was not that far from the truth, if it meant an Enlightenment Jew.

The best I can offer is this:
Even the young claimED that they feel threatened by their Moslem neighbors, but when asked to be specific, no one could come up with a single fact.

It seems to me that the Likud-party (especially) keeps all Israelis in anxiety with the numerous inspections of bags in order to JUSTIFY the periodic massacres and the endless servitude of the Palestinians.

In other words, Israelis in general and American Jews recognize that they are getting away with not only murder but they have somehow made murder respectable--under the guise of the immanence of the Second Holocaust.

Why would any organization give up such a matrix of power? No nation (compare the Athenians in the 5th century BC) will hold back from massacring as long as they can get away with it.

I have joined a number of Jewish peace groups in order to encourage the moderate Jews to develop one of the most important virtues in the long history of Judaism:

Shame!

The trouble is that the haters and the shouters are at the rudder and they have no hesitation to use the traditional weapons of totalitarians--Force and Fraud.

The only realistic solution is to get the Jews to recognize a sense of shame and a renewed sense of Truth and Justice.

 

RICHARD01

7:34 AM ET

September 25, 2009

Surely that's not Henry

Surely that's not Henry Kissinger sitting down behind Abbas? If is is, then we're all in trouble.

 

SEANMCBRIDE

4:25 PM ET

September 25, 2009

Emanuel tips his hand on the bogus peace process

Stephen Walt: Be sure to read this blog post by Helena Cobban: Rahm Emanuel's disturbing view of US role Rahm Emanuel, one of several AIPAC operatives surrounding Obama, has made it clear that the Obama administration has no real intention of applying effective pressure on Netanyahu and the Israeli government to close a deal. From which one must conclude that Obama is merely going through the motions of pursuing a peace process that was designed to fail from the beginning. The same old game is in play; Obama is a mere bit player in this drama, providing pretty words backed up by no substantive action.

 

SEANMCBRIDE

5:25 PM ET

September 25, 2009

The current objectives of the Israel lobby

1. Block efforts by the Obama administration to pressure Netanyahu and rein in the settlements.

2. Drive the United States into ever-escalating conflict with Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.

If Obama is as weak a character as he seems -- and he seems to be quite weak and infinitely pliable under pressure -- they will be able to steamroller him with the greatest of ease.

 

COURTNEYME109

1:33 AM ET

September 26, 2009

Correction

Current objectives would be:

1. Establishing a Jewish Homeland from Nile to Euphrates

2. Diplomatic recognition by every nation state on earth

3. Right of Return for all Palestinians to any one of 22 Members of Arab League

4. Reparation Collections from Arab League to Little Satan for hot, cold and asymmetrical warfare etc for the last 6 Decades

 

AWAMORI

12:26 PM ET

October 13, 2009

2 States for 2 People

O.K, let's implement 2 states for 2 people solution! Let's remove all the settlements and return all the jews inside 1967 borders (or whatever).
But in this case, we should also move all the Israeli arabs (1.7 million people) outside those borders. If jews are not allowed to live in Palestine state, why arabs should be allowed to leave in Israel? "2 states for 2 people", after all.
What the free world would say regarding this?

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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