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I don't watch much televised news -- there's just not a lot of content per unit of time and I get bored too quickly -- but I did happen to catch a report on President Obama's whirlwind trip to Afghanistan yesterday. (As a sign of my indifference to the major networks, I couldn't even tell you which channel I was watching). But I did see a film clip of the president giving a speech to the troops at Bagram air base, where he thanked them for their efforts, said the country was grateful, and told the troops "the American armed services does not quit, we keep at it, we persevere, and together with our partners we will prevail."

As always, Obama looked comfortable and sounded good. And it's possible that he meant every word of his pep talk. But I kept wondering what he meant by "prevail?" What is his definition of victory? Is it the surrender and capture of Mullah Omar and the Quetta Shura, or the military defeat of the Taliban itself? Is victory defined as the establishment of a unified Afghan central government (something that hasn't existed for decades) in command of native security forces that can take over the battle themselves, with little or no foreign support? If special representative Richard Holbrooke thinks we'll "know success when we see it," what exactly are we looking for?" 

Here's how Obama defined the strategy in his remarks:

Our broad mission is clear: We are going to disrupt and dismantle, defeat and destroy al Qaeda and its extremist allies. That is our mission. And to accomplish that goal, our objectives here in Afghanistan are also clear: We're going to deny al Qaeda safe haven. We're going to reverse the Taliban's momentum. We're going to strengthen the capacity of Afghan security forces and the Afghan government so that they can begin taking responsibility and gain confidence of the Afghan people.

And our strategy includes a military effort that takes the fight to the Taliban while creating the conditions for greater security and a transition to the Afghans; but also a civilian effort that improves the daily lives of the Afghan people, and combats corruption; and a partnership with Pakistan and its people, because we can't uproot extremists and advance security and opportunity unless we succeed on both sides of the border. Most of you understand that."

If that's what the President really thinks, we are going to be there for a long, long time.  So I found myself hoping (perhaps naively) that this was all a bit of blue-smoke-and-mirrors, and that he's actually planning to follow the same script in Afghanistan that Bush followed in Iraq.  It won't be identical in every detail, but the basic logic would be similar.  Here's how it goes:

First, announce an escalation of the U.S. effort (aka a "surge"), but set a rough deadline for it and quietly put new emphasis on "political reconciliation." (Done).  Next, bombard the media with lots of evidence of progress, such as Taliban "strongholds" seized, al Qaeda leaders killed or captured, Taliban leaders arrested in Pakistan, etc., so that people think the surge is working.  (Now underway). Third, arrange a diplomatic settlement that requires the phased withdrawal of U.S./ISAF troops, even if their departure is on a rather lengthy timetable. The Iraqi equivalent was the Status of Forces agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in the fall of 2008; in Afghanistan, it would probably entail some sort of negotiation between the Karzai government, the Taliban, and various other warlords (whether by a loya jirga) or some other device (Maybe underway too?). Finally, start removing the "surged" forces more-or-less on schedule-and ahead of the 2012 election cycle-so that you can claim to have avoided the quagmire that critics warned about back in 2009 (Remains to be seen).

I have no idea if this is what Obama or his team are actually planning -- or maybe just hoping for -- but at this stage it is offers the best chance of avoiding an open-ended commitment there.  Part of the trick is to keep sounding resolute and determined even while you're (quietly) looking for an exit, and as someone who remains unconvinced that the Afghan campaign is worth the costs, I'll continue to hope that this is what is really going on.

JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

2:58 PM ET

March 29, 2010

Bacevich and Hillary Mann Leverett, listen up

Obama should listen to Bacevich and Hillary Mann Leverett: (radio, not TV)

http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2009/12/17/is-it-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan/

Is it time to get out of Afghanistan?

Thursday, December 17th, 2009

Hour 1

President Obama announced in a speech at West Point that that he is sending 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan. He also set a date to begin troop withdrawal – July, 2011. According to polls, about half of Americans say they support the escalation in Afghanistan. But others believe we are fighting an unwinnable war and it is time to get out. This hour, a conversation with two critics of Obama’s Afghanistan policy. ANDREW BACEVICH is a retired colonel and a professor of history and international relations at Boston University. HILLARY MANN LEVERETT is the CEO of STRATEGA , a political risk consultancy.
Listen to the mp3

Listen:
http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2009/12/17/is-it-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan/

 

BDILL101

3:00 PM ET

March 29, 2010

Options

1. Conquer, Destroy everything, and Rebuild. This would entail heavy civilian casualties thus rejecting the notion of winning "hearts & minds", and would probably require at least a few hundred thousand troops (compared to the 90,000 currently deployed), and massive air strikes.

2. Win "Hearts and Minds", and give the war over to the Northern Alliance.

3. Sign a truce with the Taliban

So far it looks like a mixture between 1) and 2) because Obama is pandering to both the War Hawks and the Human Rights Mafia. This is completely ridiculous though. As every historian knows, any foreign military presence on Afghan soil is antithetical to the "Hearts-and-Minds" approach. And lets be serious, 90,000 troops is not enough to control Afghanistan, especially with its weak borders. You can't mix 1) and 2)... you will lose. As Mr. Walt knows, 3) is our best bet.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

3:49 PM ET

March 29, 2010

Civilians and militants -- one big happy family

Obama said:

"And our strategy includes a military effort that takes the fight to the Taliban while creating the conditions for greater security and a transition to the Afghans; but also a civilian effort that improves the daily lives of the Afghan people..."

Well, cool.

BUT, the Taliban and the "Afghan people" are often the same. The Taliban are not carrying badges, fyi.

The first step in getting a resolution in Af. will be to stop conflating AQ w/ Taliban, and admitting that many "Afghan peoples" are Taliban (and AQ) part-time. Civilians and combatants are all jumbled up in that wonderful part of the planet.

Good frickin luck.

Try to listen to Bacevich and Hillary Mann Leverett:

http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2009/12/17/is-it-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan/

Is it time to get out of Afghanistan?

President Obama announced in a speech at West Point that that he is sending 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan. He also set a date to begin troop withdrawal – July, 2011. According to polls, about half of Americans say they support the escalation in Afghanistan. But others believe we are fighting an unwinnable war and it is time to get out. This hour, a conversation with two critics of Obama’s Afghanistan policy. ANDREW BACEVICH is a retired colonel and a professor of history and international relations at Boston University. HILLARY MANN LEVERETT is the CEO of STRATEGA , a political risk consultancy.
Listen to the mp3

Listen:
http://whyy.org/cms/radiotimes/2009/12/17/is-it-time-to-get-out-of-afghanistan/

 

DEPETRIS@WORDPRESS.COM

4:25 PM ET

March 29, 2010

Cannot negotiate without strength

I'm going to speculate that most of President Obama's speech was in fact "smoke and mirrors." You have to remember that he is speaking to U.S. troops, so pumping up the crowd, showing support, and being highly optimistic for the troops' benefit is a top priority in his address. Of course, whether or not the troops actually believe what the President is saying is another matter.

But as far as the overall strategy is concerned, no political reconciliation can occur until U.S./NATO soldiers reverse the Taliban's momentum on the battlefield. Marjah was a great start, but the military victory has not really been supported by development efforts. Taliban sympathizers are still lingering in the city, in some cases intimidating local residents and threatening to kill them if they cooperate with American soldiers. Planning for a major offensive in Kandahar has been underway for weeks now, an operation that is necessary but secondary to getting Marjah straight first.

So we still have a long way to go before Taliban leaders start caving in (if they will at all). Mullah Omar and his Shura are still operating in Pakistan, and have repeatedly stressed that they are not willing to negotiate with Hamid Karzai or the Americans. Everyone knows that the Taliban cannot be defeated solely through military power. An end to the war will only occur if a peace agreement is signed between all relevant parties (the U.S., Karzai, the Taliban, Hezb-i-Islami).

Guess what? We are not at that phase yet. This will only come when the Taliban have an incentive to negotiate.

http://www.depetris.wordpress.com

 

BLUE13326

4:57 PM ET

March 29, 2010

One big difference is that

One big difference is that the US had captured Saddam, so one could plausibly argue that the main initial goal for the war had been achieved.

Without bin Laden or even Omar in custody or dead, it would be a harder sell.

 

IDI

2:39 AM ET

March 30, 2010

Say What?????

You just can't keep that Stranglovian right arm down, can you?

 

BLUE13326

12:19 PM ET

March 30, 2010

Wow, you took the time to

Wow, you took the time to post utter gibberish in response to a post you admit you don't understand. Seems mind-bogglingly pathetic, but thanks for your efforts.

 

JJH722

8:08 PM ET

March 29, 2010

I agree with your concerns,

I agree with your concerns, but I am more optimistic that this was a bunch of bluster. It was a fist pumping speech (which is not his forte), so I think he was playing the part of pep-rallier in chief. His strategy speech a few months ago was much more focused on the details, leading his audience of cadets to doze. I think avoiding boredom-inducing minutiae was the primary goal here. Hopefully Barry was just dolin' the daily fix of hope n' change.

 

JJH722

8:10 PM ET

March 29, 2010

one more thing--it's a little

one more thing--it's a little ironic that Walt has to "hope" that Obama's message of "hope" is just a charade.

 

MODERATEWINGER

3:30 AM ET

March 31, 2010

I'm glad he went

Since he now owns this war in Afghanistan with his escalation, it's going to be interesting to see if he can keep to his schedule. Something tells me he won't.

 

KHARBAUGH

12:30 AM ET

April 1, 2010

Current Afghan policy insane -- make a deal with the Taliban

Have you read the (subsequent) 2010-03-30 NYT article
“Afghan Leader Is Seen to Flout Influence of U.S.”
by DEXTER FILKINS and MARK LANDLER:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/world/asia/30karzai.html ?

If that is the attitude of the "best available option",
why on earth is the U.S. maintaining its current military strategy?
What positive situation can be obtained by military force
(in the real world, not the wishful thinking world)?

I think a real argument can be made that the pre-invasion Taliban
was the best government Afghanistan can reasonable expect to have,
given the facts of its people, their history, and their surroundings.
(Yes, I know the feminists disagree.
Not the first time men have fought wars for women.)

Obviously, we (the U.S.) do not want any further anti-U.S. terrorism emanating from Afghanistan,
but if that can be forestalled,
why not let Karzai make whatever deal he can with the Taliban,
without the bayonets of the U.S. and NATO affecting things?

Our current strategy seems to me
to meet any reasonable definition of insanity --
impossible to succeed,
but causing continual and grave damage in its failure.

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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