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Last week I suggested that if China’s power continues to rise, then Sino-American relations are bound to become significantly more competitive. China is likely to seek to become a regional hegemon, and the United States will probably try to prevent this. (For more on this broad theme, see Robert Kaplan’s essay on "The Geography of Chinese Power" in the latest Foreign Affairs, which arrived in my mailbox the day after I posted my original comment).   

I also noted that China's path to regional hegemony would be more difficult than America’s path had been, because there were no other major powers in the Western hemisphere and no strong obstacles to U.S. expansion across North America. (Britain was a major power presence in Canada, of course, but was generally preoccupied by events elsewhere). By contrast, there are several significant medium powers in China's neighborhood. A key question, therefore, is whether other Asian states are likely to balance against China’s rising power, or whether they will choose to "bandwagon" with it. If the former, containment will be relatively easy; if the latter, the gradual emergence of a Chinese "sphere of influence" may be difficult to prevent.

Well, lo and behold, over the weekend the Times published an interesting article about China's rising influence in Indonesia. Lots of Javanese are apparently learning Mandarin, and in the process ignoring an aversion to things Chinese dating back to Beijing’s role in the abortive 1965 coup there. This trend reflects both China’s growing economic clout and an active Chinese effort to expand the teaching of Mandarin overseas.   

So will Asia balance or bandwagon? In my previous work on alliances, I argued that balancing behavior tends to predominate in international politics, but that especially weak and/or isolated states were somewhat more likely to bandwagon than strong states are. Because weak states can do little to affect the outcome of a contest and may suffer grievously in the process, they must choose the side that is likely to win. And where great powers tend to have global interests, weak states worry mostly about the balance of power in their immediate region. They may be willing to stand up to a stronger power if they are assured of ample allied support, but a weak state left to its own devices may have little choice but to kowtow to a larger and stronger neighbor. That is how "spheres of influence" are born.

What does this logic tell us about future events in East Asia? On the one hand, prospects for balancing ought to be fairly good. Although China has the greatest power potential in Asia, several of its neighbors are hardly "weak states." Japan has the world’s third largest economy (despite a lengthy period of stagnation), a latent nuclear capability, and significant military power of its own.  Despite an aging population, it would be hard to intimidate. Vietnam has never been a pushover, India has a billion people and is nuclear-capable, and states like Indonesia and Singapore possess valuable real estate and (in Singapore’s case) military strength disproportionate to size.   

Furthermore, even a far more powerful China would have some difficulty projecting power against its various neighbors, because it would have to do so via naval, air, and amphibious capabilities and not via land power alone. And given the U.S. interest in preventing China from exercising regional hegemony, the potential targets of a Chinese drive for regional dominance would have a great power ally ready to back them up.

But on the other hand, a U.S. effort to maintain a defensive alliance in East Asia would also face several obvious obstacles. First, defensive alliances invariably face collective action problems, as each member of the alliance tries to shift the main burden onto its partners. This is a tendency that an adroit rising power can exploit, in effect playing "divide-and-rule" while the putative partners quarrel over strategy and burden-sharing.

Second, and closely related, is the difficulty of figuring out just how much support the United States has to provide its Asian partners to keep them on board. Provide too little, and some of them might be tempted to cut a deal with Beijing. Provide too much, and Asian allies will free-ride on Uncle Sucker. Add to this the perennial U.S. obsession with credibility and the fact that these same allies have an incentive to exaggerate their own propensity to bandwagon (to convince a nervous Washington to do more on their behalf), and you have a recipe for American over commitment.  

Third, as the Times story suggests, China’s most promising strategy will be to speak softly and focus on building economic and cultural ties with its various neighbors. Heavy-handed Chinese diplomacy will make it easier for Washington to maintain strong Asian partnerships, while the persistent exercise of Chinese "soft power" could convince some Asian states that  Beijing was the wave of the future and  that Chinese hegemony wouldn’t be all that onerous.  At the very least, it would make the United States work harder to preserve its current position.

Taken together (and at the risk of beating a dead horse), this analysis implies that managing alliance relations in Asia is going to take a lot more attention and skill than it took to manage relations in Europe during the Cold War (and even that wasn’t always so simple -- remember Suez?). That task will be even harder if the U.S. government is devoting a lot of time and attention to areas that are ultimately of marginal strategic importance, like ... um ... Afghanistan.

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BDILL101

1:31 AM ET

May 4, 2010

If the US attempts to

If the US attempts to "contain" China, will this make the US more secure? I know this is the line that realists take, but if the US chose to coexist with a hegemonic China, would the US be less secure? As Chalmers Johnson noted, meddling in the politics of nations around the world can lead to blowback and in turn make the US less secure. I'm also afraid that the knee-jerk reaction of defense analysts and advisors will be to take the traditional route to suppress Chinese advancement, and this will lead to a hostile relationship while both countries need to cooperate on issues such as global warming

 

GRANT

3:23 AM ET

May 4, 2010

The premise that Walt is

The premise that Walt is using is based on the 'realist' theory of international politics, which predicts that the U.S and China will inexorably move closer to conflict.

In any case, regardless of whether it is correct or not I don't think things will really be so simple for China even if it does rely on soft power and economics. South Korea will be wary so long as North Korea remains, Japan has a bitter past with China (and mainland Asia), India has multiple border disputes with China that look set to grow tenser in the future, Russia and China seem only able to agree on their dislike of the U.S, and a good deal of the past thousand years of Vietnamese history were spent resisting Chinese influence. China will have to work hard and be lucky to remedy areas of its Asian position just as the U.S has to in the Middle East and South America.

 

ANON_ANON

4:21 AM ET

May 4, 2010

A really interesting question for a realist

would involve the role of the ethnic Chinese in Indonesia, and how that affects balancing behavior. They are, I think, disproportionately wealthy, and occasionally, that results in violence against Indonesians of Chinese descent (eg, during the fall of Suharto). How might that affect Indonesia's propensity to balance against (or bandwagon with) China?

Amy Chua's book "World on Fire" (or is it "Whole World on Fire"? - I always get her and Lynn Eden's books confused) deals with the topic of the disapora. It's not a good book in terms of social science, if I can be so blunt, but it does deal with the role of the Chinese in SE Asia (as well as other "market dominant minorities" in other regions and cultures).

 

RöSTIGRABEN

8:51 AM ET

May 4, 2010

The Third Way

It would've been nice if you'd addressed the third alternative between balancing and bandwagoning: independent engagement. If you adopt a US-centric viewpoint and argue about power transition problems between the currently predominant power and its most likely challenger, the adoption of one of the first two strategies by a regional middle or small power is, of course, more interesting and of higher importance, but this dichotomy doesn't exhaust the actual range of behaviour of such actors in East Asia. Especially the ASEAN states are engaged heavily in regional institution-building and multilateral engagement, and - at least so far - seem unwilling to scrap that strategy and commit to one of the major players instead. Unless you adopt a hardcore realist viewpoint and argue that non-alliance institutions and socialization processes don't matter (which would be pretty shortsighted in my opinion), you'd have to account for this activity when describing the road ahead for US diplomacy in East Asia.

 

SURESH SHETH

3:06 AM ET

May 5, 2010

US promoted China to super power status

US has literally created this challenge from China on its own when Nixon embraced China‘s Communist dragon to counter Russia‘s Soviet bear in 1972 while Mao‘s cultural revolution was in full swing killing millions of innocent Chinese at the time.

Let us face it - China was a pariah country in the world just like today’s North Korea until anti-Communist Nixon’s 1972 visit. All the West European and East Asian countries stayed away from China following the US lead until 1972 and embraced China after Nixon’s visit. While US would not give MFN status to Soviet Union (remember Jackson-Vanik amendment?) unless Russia shed Communism, it had no problem giving it to China’s Communist dictators with a capitalist mask. Trade with China expanded by leaps and bounds during 12 years of Republican rule beginning in 1981. Bush Senior had no problem sending his national security advisor to Beijing within two months after Tiananmen massacre. After campaigning against butchers of Beijing in 1992 elections, even Bill Clinton became enthusiastic supporter of trade with China once he took lessons in foreign policy from Nixon in early 1993 during a special Whitehouse-arranged meeting. US also promoted China to a super power status by accepting it as a permanent UNSC member.

US businesses were supposed to benefit from huge Chinese consumer market. Instead that theory of American economists and China-apologists has been turned on its head and China has benefited far more from vast American and European markets. China used huge trade surpluses with US and the West to buy all the military equipment in the world. And China with its foothold in US and Western Europe, spied away any technology it could not buy.

Now China has US by the tail - US businesses are hooked to huge profits that cheap Chinese products generate for them as a walk through any Walmart, Sears or Home Depot filled with cheap Chinese goods attests to and US government is hooked to huge investments that Chinese government makes in US treasuries.

Nixon’s China embrace to counter Soviet Union has come back to haunt US with the rise of China to challenge US just as Reagan‘s embrace of Islamic fundamentalists to counter Soviet Union in 1980s Afghanistan came back to haunt US in the form of 9/11 attacks.

Reagan must be squirming in his grave for his Republican predecessor Nixon being responsible for the rise of dictatorial China as a threat to US after Reagan was supposed to have vanquished Soviet Union.

The West will desperately try to reverse the rise of China but will be largely unsuccessful. Little could Mao or even Deng have imagined that their followers will beat capitalists at their own game. Lenin used to say that ’capitalists will sell us the ropes with which we will hang them’. With the West selling such ropes (in the form of technology transfers), China has proved that Lenin quote quite prophetic.

 

DLIMON

12:05 PM ET

May 5, 2010

You and Mearsheimer should

You and Mearsheimer should write a book on this.

 

JJH722

3:05 PM ET

May 5, 2010

divide and conquer the superpowers

Isn't it clear that this process is already underway, and that states ARE bandwagoning against China? Just look at all of her former Communist "satellites": they are all equally (even Vietnam) wary of Chinese military expansion and looking for US involvement to balance the tables. They have no interest in seeing China dominate the region militarily. Russia and China seem tight, but we know that relationship is based on common interests like gas and arms production than anything else. The US no longer really poses a military threat to anybody in that region, so inviting the Americans in is sort of like a free lunch. You get to pressure the Chinese without having to pay for it. It's like an asymmetrical divide and conquer.

 

BOB SPENCER

6:35 PM ET

May 5, 2010

They probably have a different frame of reference

Instead of viewing China’s rise from an American military oriented/national institution frame of reference, why not put yourself in the place of a Chinese general that controls a region inside China and all of its industry and much of its business. Those guys are making lots of business deals with their strongman counterparts in Pakistan and they are doing some of the same with strongman types in Vietnamese mines and other ventures. Plus, they are extending influential collaborations with Iran as well as in many other places.

Think about this: China is steadily increasing its world influence, but does not have one overseas military base.

Bob Spencer

 

MEKHONGKURT

4:36 PM ET

May 6, 2010

China vis-a-vis East, Southeast, and South Asia

First, though I have no special expertise in this part of the world -- I live in Bangkok as an American expatriate, and with the exception of a 27-month gap 1988-1990, I've lived in China and Thailand since 1985 and have written much web commentary about the web, including on my own [closed] website and others' websites, a few articles for publication about China, and so on, having been an East Asia watcher sice the early 1970's, particularly of China.I also am a university teacher of business communications (among other areas), including cross-cultural management communication and cross-cultural negotiation, particularly in a Chinese-Western context, and have advised companies in Macau in this area. I spent a total of eight years in China, counting a "shared" year when I basically commuted between Bangkok and Shunde, a small city midway between Macau and Guangzhou. Counting that ey also are, as a bloc,year, I've been in Bangkok 16 years.

Based on my experiences, I feel both the article and the comments so far are largely correct, but also that they all miss something.

Namely, ASEAN in particularly is hedging its bets by both engaging with China commercially, a logical step given the widespread dominance of ethnic Chinese in commerce and government in several of those countries, particularly Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, and the Philippines. They are also acting as a bloc in trying to engage China, South Korea, Japan, and India in closer, formal trade relationships, both bilaterally (within a larger ASEAN framework), and as ASEAN.

At the same time, some ASEAN members are quietly strengthening their military forces, particularly naval forces. This is probably prudent, given that China recently privately told the U.S. military to butt out of the South China Sea, essentially. For them to do so is no surprise; they have historically viewed that sea as a Chinese "lake," for all practical intent and purposes.

Further, India has been manuevering on the frontier with China, though it's not entirely clear to me whether India is actually *increasing* its border forces, which China would, no doubt, view as a serious provocation. And India's clampdown on importing Chinese-made telephones and other telecommunications equipment already has Beijing's jaw ratcheted right tight.

In other words, these countries are following *twin* tracks, one to be able to be closer to China, the other to be able to stand up to it.

This presents a conundrum for China. On the one hand, the Old Men of Zhongnanhai would dearly love to be seen both as benevolent -- and supreme. To view all others as "also-ran" states, potentially vassal states, in in the Chinese DNA historically, going back to ancient times, not just the past 60 years of Communist rule. On the other hand, they want to be a superpower on par with the U.S. and the former Soviet Union, or at least on par with contemporary Russia.

Much has been said about this being the Asian Century, more particularly the Chinese Century. The latter remains more wish than practical reality. The same can be said of the former, though to a considerably lesser degree, as this part of the world, as a bloc, is rising, particularly economically.

Yet even mighty China's economy remains far smaller than that of the U.S. As for their vast holding of U.S. securities, well, we're in something of a Mexican standoff in that, simply because we remain their largest single customer, by far, so they can hardly afford to call the bill due without wrecking their *own* economy. To put it into terms we've heard ad infinitum over the past year-plus, for China, the U.S. is genuinely "too big to fail." They need us at least as much as we need them, perhaps more -- which crimps their ability to establish hegemony on Asia east from, say, 70 degrees east longitude eastward to the Western Pacific (excluding the Russian Far East).

Then there are the realities of the limitations in their military capabilities, particularly in terms of being able to *project* a military presence very far from Chinese shores. I read just recently that some analysts claim China in fact has as few as around 18 ICBM's capable of hitting the U.S. mainland, for instance. Their air and naval power are both limited, other than for defense on or near their own soil. Even if we completely refurbished every carrier battle group we have, handed them over, and trained Chinese navy personnel for the next five years, it would be at *least* a generation before they would have true superpower naval capability -- not because the Chinese forces aren't good; they are quite good. But they have no experience, particularly in warfare; their last war was with Vietnam -- in the late 1970's, and quite minor, as wars go.

They can't even project beyond their borders locally, really, as has already been pointed out, particularly southwestward (because of the Himilayas). And they undoubtedly have very much in their minds that India is nuclear armed, as is Pakistan, should they upset them as well. The U.S. is in the neighborhood, whether Beijing like its or not. And, of course, there sits Russia with its relatively mighty arsenal and some excellent troops, even today.

What every country, not just the countries in Asia, have to keep in mind is that historically, for the Chinese to reach a win-win situation is not enough; they want not only to win, but to destroy their opponent. (This is one of the most difficult concepts to get across to Western business people; fortunately, the world of Chinese business has come around to a considerable degree; I'm far from convinced that the *political* leadership has budged much, if at all.)

In short, the situation is far more complex than most observers in the media make it. The task the Chinese leadership face is daunting: it's akin to their having to balance several beach balls one atop the other -- then to form a human pyramid on top of the uppermost one, all without the entire structure collapsing in ruin.

And I haven't even *mentioned* their huge *domestic* challenges. . . .

 

COPE2

7:10 AM ET

May 29, 2010

HAHA

wow. you call this balancing? china has 1.3 billion people, and spends $60 billion on military. usa has 300 million people, and spends $700 billion on military. with another $70 billion on the cia. the u.s. has 750+ military bases around the world. china has 0. the u.s. has 11 air craft carriers. china has 0. baring in mind also that many of the places where the u.s has bases, they are not wanted. most japanese dont want american bases in their lands. why is it that we never hear about the exact methods in which america uses to "balance" the act? how come we don't hear about the indonesian riots and the american involvement in instigating it? malaysian riots caused by american support? the viet nam war killing millions? we seldom hear that america used more bombs murdering vietnamese people than was used in the entire world war 2 by all countries combined. the korean war, murdering millions. staging coups in thailand to overthrow democratically elected leader thaksin because he was seen as "too close" to china. the liberal media all too often paints america as the good guy, and promoting democracy, but that couldnt be further from the truth.

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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