Even though I am on vacation with my family this week, I was planning to blog today about the Washington Post's stunning series on the extraordinary expansion of America's intelligence apparatus since 9/11. It is outstanding investigative journalism, and its authors -- Dana Priest and William Arkin -- deserve enormous kudos. I'll share my thoughts on this matter later this week.

Instead of writing today about quality journalism, I unfortunately have to write about an article that fits squarely at the other end of the journalism spectrum. I refer here to the nasty column in Tablet magazine by Lee Smith, denouncing Glenn Greenwald, Andrew Sullivan, Philip Weiss, Jim Lobe and me for being "career Jew-baiters" and serving as facilitators of anti-Semitism.

As one might expect, the piece is long on invective and innuendo but almost completely devoid of meaningful evidence. Its only real value is to once again demonstrate the usual tactics that many of the so-called defenders of Israel employ against anyone who is critical either of Israel's actions or of America's special relationship with Israel.

The first thing to observe about Smith's screed is that even though he accuses me and my fellow bloggers of being anti-Semites and "Jew-baiters," his article contains not a scintilla of evidence that Sullivan, Greenwald, Weiss, or I have written or said anything that is remotely anti-Semitic, much less that involves "Jew-baiting." There's an obvious reason for this omission: None of us has ever written or said anything that supports Smith's outrageous charges.

Smith therefore has to resort to a new and bizarre form of "guilt-by-association." He attacks the four of us-and me in particular-by looking at some of the anonymous reader comments that appear in response to some of our posts. He finds that a few of those individuals who comment make some extreme statements, which he uses to argue that we are deliberately fostering anti-Semitism on our blogs. In other words, we must be anti-Semites because a handful of people whom we don't even know -- because their identities are secret -- are commenting on our posts. (It's not clear how this applies to Sullivan, by the way, because his blog doesn't have a comments thread.)

The problems with this line of argument should be obvious. First, people of all persuasions write in to disagree -- sometimes vehemently -- with my views on Middle East policy, and that includes individuals who defend Israel down the line. So, one could just as easily use the comments thread to argue that I am providing a platform for pro-Israel hasbara. Second, any website that deals with Middle East subjects, especially Israel, will inevitably attract some wing-nuts. Just take a look at the comments on New York Times or Washington Post pieces dealing with Israel, or even better, check out the "talk-backs" in the Jerusalem Post or Ha'aretz. There is virtually no difference between what you will find at those sites and what you will find on the Greenwald, Weiss, and Walt sites. Does Smith also believe that Ha'aretz and the Jerusalem Post are "mainstreaming hate?" Third, if we judge bloggers not by what they write but by what some of their readers write in response, we would be giving opponents of those bloggers an easy way to discredit them. If you don't like what a particular blogger says, write an anonymous comment praising him or her, add some bigoted statements of your own, and then send Smith an anonymous email and tell him to check out the comments thread. Voila! Lastly, if we take freedom-of-speech seriously (and I do) we have to be tolerant of discourse that we personally find offensive and sometimes even hateful. I am confident that the vast majority of people who read my blog can tell the difference between what I write under my own name and what anyone else says about what I have written, even if Smith cannot.

Smith's other source of "evidence" against me and my fellow bloggers is a handful of outlandish quotations from the Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg, who has made some of those same bogus charges against me in the past. Goldberg, in case you didn't know, is a journalist whose intense passion for Israel led him to emigrate there and enlist in the IDF, where he served as a prison guard. I have no problem with that, as Americans are allowed to hold dual citizenship; but it does help you understand why he is quick to attack anyone who criticizes Israel. Objectivity about the Middle East is not his strong suit.

He was also a vocal advocate of invading Iraq in 2003, and wrote a long-since discredited article about Saddam Hussein's supposed links to al Qaeda. This embarrassing error gives you some idea of the reliability of his expertise about the Middle East. He also wrote a comically overwrought review of my book with John Mearsheimer on the Israel lobby in the New Republic that began by comparing us to Osama bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Father Coughlin, and managed to misrepresent our views on nearly every page. I seem to have become a favorite punching bag of his, given that he has repeatedly accused me on his own blog of being a "Jew-baiter." Of course, he never offers a shred of evidence to support that ludicrous (and truth be told, obscene) charge.

The fact that Goldberg's ravings are the best ammunition Smith has shows you that he has no case.

What is really going on here? Smith's article is just another illustration of what has become a familiar and depressing story here in the United States. Anyone who writes or says something that is critical of Israeli policy, who questions the wisdom of the special relationship, or who talks about the negative influence of the Israel lobby, is almost certain to smeared, usually by being labeled either an anti-Semite or a self-hating Jew. It is as predictable as the sun rising in the east each morning.

It doesn't matter how often you remind people that lobbying on behalf of a foreign country is a legitimate political activity in the American political system, how often you emphasize that you support Israel's existence, or how often you denounce genuine anti-Semitism. Nor does it matter how carefully you document your claims.

People like Smith (and Goldberg) will simply ignore all of that and instead come up with bizarre arguments designed to portray you as a virulent and dangerous bigot. Of course, the purpose of this smearing is two-fold: to deter others from speaking out in public, and to discourage those who have spoken out from doing so again. And when someone cannot be silenced, the goal is to marginalize them so that they cannot influence the discourse about Israel and Middle East politics in meaningful ways.

Why do they use such ugly tactics? The answer is simple: the case they are defending is so weak that they cannot rely on facts, logic, and claims of justice to win the day. To be perfectly clear, I am not talking about the case for Israel's existence inside its pre-1967 borders, which I wholeheartedly support. Rather, I am talking about the case for defending many of Israel's policies, including its actions in the Occupied Territories, and its recent wars against Lebanon (2006) and Gaza (2008-2009). I am talking about the case for giving Israel unconditional and uncritical backing no matter what it does, which is not in either America's or Israel's interest. Those cases cannot stand up to scrutiny, which is why Smith and Goldberg have to rely on name-calling and character assassination instead of facts, logic, and rational discussion.

One final point is in order about the lobby's efforts to marginalize individuals who criticize Israel. Smith's attack is obviously designed to try to convince the people who run Foreign Policy to drop me from its site. Why else would Smith make a pointed reference to the "owners of the Washington Post" and to the "advertising staff" there?

The fact is that the blogosphere has succeeded in opening up a freewheeling and informative discourse about Israel and Middle East politics that is still largely absent from the mainstream media. Subjects relating to Israel that were taboo not too long ago are now being openly discussed on the internet, and by writers who have a large audience. This is a major headache for the lobby, which is used to the relatively easy task of policing the mainstream media. But rest assured that "pro-Israel" forces are hard at work trying to figure out how to silence the likes of Greenwald, Sullivan, Weiss, and me. Smith and Goldberg are part of that effort.

In any case, I am flattered to be included with Messrs. Weiss, Sullivan, Greenwald and Lobe.  I don't agree with everything they write and I'm sure that's their view of my work as well, but they are courageous and intelligent writers who have done much to expand our understanding of a range of vital issues, which is more than one can say of our attacker. To be smeared by the likes of Mr. Smith is a badge of honor, and it tells me that I must be doing something right.

 UPDATE:  In my original post on this topic, I neglected to include Jim Lobe and his associates, who were also targeted in Smith's hatchet job.  Jim is a terrific journalist who has done important work on the neoconservative movement (among other topics), and I am pleased to be his friend.   I've corrected the omission in the above post, and I recommend the work that he and his associates put up at LobeLog.  My apologies to them for the omission.  

 

 
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ANON_ANON

8:53 PM ET

July 21, 2010

somewhat off your main argument

but, fact is, you have a lot of people who are either anti-Semites, or at a minimum, write anti-Semitic comments on your blog. I don't know how to remedy that - I think it's asking too much to ask you to censor your commenters, or denounce specific commenters. But I think you ought to acknowledge how obnoxious some of your commenters are.

 

EVAN HARPER

9:47 PM ET

July 21, 2010

He does

Walt writes, "[In] some of the anonymous reader comments that appear in response to some of our posts ... a few of those individuals who comment make some extreme statements." Pretty clear cut.

 

HUGH

9:42 AM ET

July 22, 2010

I see the Israeli PR men are

I see the Israeli PR men are out in force today.

Like Lee Smith they keep chucking round the accusation of anti-Semitism, yet there's never any citation of anything Walt has ever said to support the charge - ie it's total bullshit.

 

THUGSCHEN

1:41 PM ET

July 22, 2010

NAACP is Not AIPAC

AMOSYARKONI makes the specious argument that attacking the AIPAC ought to garner the same censure as would attacking the NAACP. It might have, perhaps, if the NAACP aggressively lobbied Washington to prop up states like Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe, it will be recalled, engaged in human rights violations and nasty land grabs from white farmers. Such abhorrent policies might have been seen by some blacks as being in alignment with the NAACP's original goal of promoting black interests. Of course, the NAACP stands for equality among races and would never adopt such policies and would never lobby Washington to wield its considerable power to support such states.

 

LUCCHESI

3:53 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Smith's piece attacked Walt,

Smith's piece attacked Walt, among others, for fostering, whether by intent or not, whether willingly or not, an atmosphere where the most vile kind of anti-Semitism derails and/or dominates discussion of their posts, and the apparent lack of concern of Walt, along with the others, for what their posts attract.

In this I find Smith entirely right, and Walt's defense of himself oddly off-balance, needlessly defensive, and of course, not a response to what Smith really said. And of course, we find the typical attack on the credibility and legitimacy of Smith and his piece made before the argument that it is bad journalism is even. And of course, we also have the pity-party 'I was on vacation' and 'why am I being personally attacked' shaking-of-the-head-regret at the inferiority of those who criticize him coming from Mr. Walt, such a typical attitude. One regularly expressed by those named in Smith's article.

"So-called defenders of Israel" - can't you write better than this, Mr. Walt? Can't you avoid being so intellectually lazy as to beat that pile of dust that was once the dead horse of whining about "the usual tactics" of equating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism? Did you even read Smith's article, Mr. Walt? I'm just wondering, because it seems that you have not. Strawmen are certainly not limited to the Israel debate, but they do have a certain prominence.

"Screed," etc. Is this kind of scorn, set on such a flimsy foundation, the best that the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard can do?

And it isn't that hard to police comments, "I don't have the time or the inclination" is not an excuse.

 

LUCCHESI

3:52 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Yes, it is obvious now

Obvious that neither Walt nor many of the commenters here actually read Smith's piece.

"Like Lee Smith they keep chucking round the accusation of anti-Semitism, yet there's never any citation of anything Walt has ever said to support the charge - ie it's total bullshit."

Walt was never accused of anti-Semitism. You have not read Smith's piece.

And neither has Walt.

"The first thing to observe about Smith's screed is that even though he accuses me and my fellow bloggers of being anti-Semites and "Jew-baiters," his article contains not a scintilla of evidence that Sullivan, Greenwald, Weiss, or I have written or said anything that is remotely anti-Semitic, much less that involves "Jew-baiting." There's an obvious reason for this omission: None of us has ever written or said anything that supports Smith's outrageous charges. "

Mr. Walt, Smith never made such charges. He never said you or any of the bloggers mentioned are anti-Semites. And of course, the idea that you have never said or written anything that has baited anti-Semites, in other words, given them something they enjoy reading very much, is patently false.

Yes, Sullivan has no comments, but Smith quoted Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic:

"Whenever one of these guys writes about me, I can tell without having looked at their blogs, because my inbox quickly fills with anti-Semitic invective,” says The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, a Tablet Magazine contributing editor and a frequent target of Weiss, Greenwald, and Walt. “Whenever I see a subject line with something like ‘You fascist Zionazi,’ it’s pretty much assured the link in the email will lead back to a post from one of these guys.”

This dishonest bit of writing from a Harvard professor is shameful, but not particularly surprising.

Walt did not read Smith's piece, and he should apologize to Smith for this rather embarrassing litany of personal attacks held up by such a weak foundation.

 

DAVID IN DC

4:55 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Well said, Lucchesi

I only have one thing to add:

Steve is no dummy. The fact that he wrote such a sloppy original article and used such charged rhetoric, and continues to do so, is because he is trying to bait people to respond the way they are. It's entirely predictable that a few people would respond this way. They would do it even if Steve had presented a perfectly balanced analysis using sterile language. His approach just ensures the volume and heat will be turned pretty high. He writes that he was aware of the minefield he was traversing when he wrote the original article, yet still presented a skewed picture using language sure to elicit the responses it did. Well, duh.

Then he gets to play the card he does here - you can't criticize Israel without being called an anti-Semite, the third rail of American politics, oh I'm such a martyr, the big, bad Lobby is picking on me, blah, blah, blah...

Oh, and the fact that he gets this response, he tells us, is further confirmation of his hypothesis, just one more incentive for him to troll for it.

Steve wants to get this response, writes to that effect, and gets it. This is what race baiting is. Calling Steve a Jew-baiter isn't entirely unfair.

What is unfair is the guilt by association thing. Steve's reprehensible commenters should maybe make him do a bit of soul-searching (something I think is highly unlikely) but because they flock here doesn't make Steve an anti-Semite or a race baiter.

 

GZZZUS

5:07 PM ET

July 22, 2010

This makes me sick to my stomach

Walt,

There are a few jackasses posting at FP who are so quick to pull out the because they're jewish card, that I've been openly mocking some of them in a pretty head on way.

I apologize if any of my posts censuring these jackasses has somehow caused your own name to be dragged through the mud.

If its something that truly makes me angry its one person's name being treaded on by the actions of another person. There are some thoughtful and salient points made by some of your commenters who are also anonymous, but for the most part some of the comments are the low level drivel which makes reading comments a exercise in futility.

Its probably a lost cause censuring commenters hell bent on making some sort of ridiculous point while promoting their own blog or what have you.

 

DAVID IN DC

5:15 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Adding, FWIW

I don't agree that this same label applies to Sullivan. Sullivan is obnoxious and extremely biased, but I don't think he is trying to race-bait here. He just get extremely involved in whatever his cause du jour is. Today it is Israel and the parentage of Trig Palin, tomorrow it will be something else. I think Lee Smith might have cast too wide a net here.

 

EGUARD

7:38 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Too much indeed

AMOSYARKONI, you copy/pasted this comment twice here.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

5:05 PM ET

July 23, 2010

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

12:44 AM ET

July 24, 2010

AK IV - Jew Mossad's by way of deception thou shalt do war

AK IV - Jew Mossad's by way of deception thou shalt do war
Please take note.

 

SLEDGE_HAMMER

12:29 AM ET

July 26, 2010

I see England, I see France...

You see things that aren't there. We are ordinary Americans who don't fall for this anti-semitic drivel. All I needed to know about Mr. Walt was the imaginary invective written in his book "The ISrael Lobby" along with Mr. Mere-Slimer.

 

SLEDGE_HAMMER

12:31 AM ET

July 26, 2010

anti-semitism has many faces

These days the de-legitimization of Israel is a substitute for anti-semitism. It is a expression of not-so-latent anti-semitism.

 

UBOAT53

9:15 PM ET

July 21, 2010

I hear you

As someone who shares many of the same views about Israel (right to exist in pre-1967 borders, disapproval of many policies, bad effect on American politics), I can say that I can attest to your commentary on Anti-Semitism being used like a cudgel in these kinds of debates. It helps of course, that I am a Jew myself, and that I am usually debating with non-Jews. Many people who have been around while listening to these debates tell me that the exchange "Well you must just be anti-semitic."-"I'm a Jew."-"Oh." is usually the signal that the argument is over as there are no further legitimate arguments on the other side.

While I deplore genuine anti-semitism (as a Jew, that seems somewhat natural), I deplore equally its' de-valuation in being used to attack people who are attempting to have a rational discussion. I hope you'll continue to loudly advocate your position in future so long as you can defend it, and kudos to you for doing so.

 

BOON

5:31 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Goldberg more reliable?

No.

When it comes to national discourse on our relationship with a foreign power, having emigrated to it and served in it's armed forces doesn't make you the most objective of sources.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

5:45 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Good answer boon. no. what is

Good answer boon. no.
what is that a joke? You are telling me that Walt isnt objective? The majority of his articles criticize only Israel and nobody else. Didnt you realize that all of Walt's articles make the front page of Foreign Policy. Picture and all, while the article about the Silent Palestinian Struggle was simply put in the side column? Don't tell me this wasnt done on purpose.

I believe someone more when they live there then when they live in the United States. How would you feel if an Italian started bashing on the United States when he has never been here, only because of what he read about us? You would be angry and appalled.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

2:23 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Well besides the fact that

Well besides the fact that Haaretz is noted as considerably and dangerously left wing.
Yes, I do believe Ahmedinijad on some facts. I do believe that he does want to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth. I do believe that he does not believe in the Holocaust and I do believe if he could he would also attack the United States.

 

NICOLAS19

3:58 PM ET

July 22, 2010

beleief or action

What Ahmedinajad believes is his business. He didn't attack any foreign country, so it makes him a more legitimate leader than some.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

9:12 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Also, Israel hasnt really

Also, Israel hasnt really attacked any countries. Last I heard Hezbollah wasn't a country and neither was Gaza.
while Iran has in fact used proxies to attack Israelis, Jews and Americans worldwide as mentioned in the above comments.

 

EW66

11:57 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Umm...about that

"Hezbollah have never operated inside Saudi Arabia. The bombing of the Army Barracks took place in Lebanon..There is no evidence that Hezbollah had anything to do with the JCC attack in Argentina"

In order to know anything about how Iran uses proxies to infiltrate countries and wage proxy warfare, you have to know a little about the IRGC (& Qods, the intelligence wing) which you seem to make no mention of. No one is claiming Hezbollah was responsible for the Khobar towers attack but you seem to conflate, simplify, or totally ignore certain events. Research first.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

1:03 AM ET

July 23, 2010

In regards to Ha'aretz being

In regards to Ha'aretz being too radical about anything is dangerous. It means one does not have an open mind. That is why I consider Ha'aretz dangerous.

Just because it was a response doesnt make it any worse. Or do you believe that
revenge is OK? Also the Sabra and Shatilla Massacre was committed by the Lebanese.

Just because it isn't Hizbullah does not mean Iran isnt behind it.

And so why does Hizbullah exist nowadays? Israel has withdrawn and given the land back. Why does Hizbullah not fight for the rights of their Palestinian brethren within Lebanon. They have less rights then in the West Bank. And this is within their own country!!

Israel did not attack the ship. It defended. And they were in no way shape or form peace activists. Peace activists don't attack soldiers before being provoked. The soldiers did not even have time to land before they were stabbed and beaten. If they were peace activists and they acted in self defense wouldn't they wait for a soldier to at least do something?

Saying the proxy argument is baseless does not mean that what you are saying is true. You have to back up your claims. That is the problem with many anti-Israel activists. No claims. They just repeat something hoping that one day it will be true.

Just because they are part of a government does not make that any more ok. Hamas is the govt. in Gaza and yet they are still considered a dangerous terrorist group in the majority of the world.

I am sorry sir, but you seem to be forgetting the Iran-Iraq war. Iran has been in wars. Also Hezbollah has attacked Israel before. That is how Israeli soldiers were kidnapped and why the second Lebanese war started.

Please sir, show me this quote. You saying something is meaningless to me. And show it within a whole context. Not just a snippet you use.

1967 is considered a miracle by all and was called a pre-emptive strike. read up on your history bud. It helps when arguing.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

2:49 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Ha'aretz is how people get

Ha'aretz is how people get information and where many anti-Israel activists claim that whatever they report is real, factual news. So yes, it is dangerous. Imagine if people worldwide only got their information from FOX. Wouldnt you say that it is bad?

You say Sabra and Shatilla was enabled by Sharon. Well cant you say that 1948 and the possibility of a Palestinian homeland was enabled by the Arab states. They should take the blame for it.

But it does mean that Hizbullah has their hands behind their back. Just like Israel unfourtanetly has to worry a lot about the United States and making sure that they are still good friends. You might have your own views but you must still worry and occasionally do as they want, like the settlement freeze, etc.

But Hizbullah has overstayed their due. They do not fight for the rights of Palestinians anymore, the treatment within lebanon, and so they have lost any justification to their cause.

"False. Israel carries all the weapons and did all the killing. Israel boarded in international waters. The flotilla posed no threat to Israel."

False. Israel brought paintball guns to a knife fight. It doesn't matter where Israel boarded the ship. Their clear objective was to break a lawful blockade. In doing so a country is allowed to board the ship anywhere it pleases on the seas. San Remo Manuel Law. Look it up.

I have never heard of shooting from helicopters. And shooting what? Paintball guns? This is justification for stabbing and throwing soldiers off decks? In that case at any riot you believe that anyone can go ahead and stab the police. Riots are a clear objective, just like the flotilla. Police stop riots, Israel stopped the flotilla.

"They should have though of that before shooting at the vessel from the helicopters, and illegally boarding the ship."

There is no back up to your claim of shooting at the flotilla and it wasn't illegal.

elected 2 prime ministers that were terrorists? Who and I bet you they werent recognized as terrorists but anyone put Hamas and Fatah.

Dangerous but different than a terrorist group. Also youre showing it so wheres the proof for that accusation?

"Who forgot that one? Iraq started it, with US support. Iran defended themselves. Your point?"

well in that case all of Israel's wars had been defensive. So you just justified Operation Cast Lead and many more.

"Judge Winograd who ran the Israeli commission of inquiry after the war stated:

“Israel embarked on a prolonged war that it initiated………..Though it was a war of our own initiative and waged in a defined territory, Israel did not use its military power wisely or effectively,”"

He also said this ". The decision made in the night of July 12th – to react (to the kidnapping) with immediate and substantive military action, and to set for it ambitious goals"

He laments that there were many failures, which is inevitable when fighting guriellas but still, he says they reacted.

No, no. To be honest I have never heard of that. But how many other wars last 6 days with so much success?

and here you go, randomly quoting people, probably out of context. And yet they all point to Egypt. Yet with Eygpt we gave it all back. What of Syria and Jordan? They attacked Israel clear and proper.

Also what do you say to the fact that Palestinians did not want a homeland until after 1967. They were fine under Muslim rule, but dare it be Jewish they revolt and yell occupation and bloody murder.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

5:12 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Addamo why are you trying to be more

Palestinian than the actual palestinians. Maybe you are insecure with yourself.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

5:13 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Iran sends weapons into Iraq and trains the Shiite Militias to

kill US troops in Iraq. The roadside bombs in Iraq are manufactured in Iran and the sniper rifles are bought by Iran and sent into Iraq. This is confirmed by Gens. Petreaus, and McChrystal.

 

LYN17

6:48 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Israel has attacked neighboring countries more times than Iraq

Just counting major invasions, not the many cross-border incursions and massacres and shelling and ethnic cleansing
Egypt, 1956
Egypt, Jordan, Syria 1967
Lebanon, 1978, 1982, 2006

Iraq attacked Iran in 1980, Kuwait in 1990

To be fair, cross-border incursions have gone both ways - but the majority has been by Israel.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

7:05 PM ET

July 23, 2010

 

LYN17

7:08 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Hilarious

"The soldiers did not even have time to land before they were stabbed and beaten."

You're saying they were stabbed and beaten in their helicopters?

 

SLEDGE_HAMMER

12:41 AM ET

July 26, 2010

ahmadinejad and attacking countries

Ahmadinejad most certainly DOES attack many COUNTRIES through the millions of euros and dollars he gives to Hammas and Hezbollah, and even Al Qaeda. He has bombed a Jewish center in Argentina, and makes a regular practice of bombing Iraqi Kurds just over the Iranian border...etc.etc. Think before you write.

 

SLEDGE_HAMMER

12:36 AM ET

July 26, 2010

MY how deep leftist denial goes

Addamo, you are blind if not insane.

 

VHISTORY

9:21 PM ET

July 21, 2010

When you can't debate an issue, claim racism.

Somehow criticizing actions committed by Israel makes one anti-semitic. Which is somewhat ironic, as the policies they support increase the threat posed to Jews just as the invasion of Iraq increased the terror threat to those in the US and UK.

It's entirely absurd to judge the content of an article by the people who read(or don't read) and comment on it. On a side note, I bet if I posted this comment on Tablet Mag, it would be deleted.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

5:14 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Addamo who are you kidding

Lets just be honest. I attack Jews and so do you. We both know we hate them. I don't care to be PC anymore and use the word Israel and Zionist. They are all the same.

 

DPT

9:25 PM ET

July 21, 2010

Or, we could calm down

and just recognize that a blogger, particularly one who has another job, does not have the time to repudiate, reject and rectify every stupid, racist, or morally abhorrent thing their commenters say.

Stephen Walt does not personally invite or encourage these people, I am not even sure if he is the one in charge of moderating comments or if it is just a general FP policy, or what. But in any case, the idea that bloggers need to, if not police their commenters vigorously, "acknowledge how obnoxious" their commenters are, where will it end? The reality is that people who are upset with Professor Walt now will still be upset with him, anti-Semitic commenters will still be anti-Semitic, and we will have a lot more ridiculous posts dedicated to CYA rather than interesting topics.

Politics already has enough of these guilty-by-association witchhunts, and they've gotten so out of control to the point where the left infiltrates Tea Party rallies and the right micro-analyzes every statement by any Democratic bureaucrat anywhere within the last 25 years to pull out potentially inflammatory comments to tar the administration. We don't need it on this blog. All this positioning and posturing and face-saving should be unncessary if we recognized basic distinctions between anonymous commenters and bloggers, and it sucks the air out of substantive discourse.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

5:09 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Stop diverting from the subject Adammo

by talking about Dershowitz. It's way off topic.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

4:37 AM ET

July 24, 2010

AK IV - Jew Mossad's by way of deception thou shalt do war

AK IV - Jew Mossad's by way of deception thou shalt do war
Please take note.

 

MRPOLITISHQ

9:37 PM ET

July 21, 2010

Lol...

Shingo... ur famous....

 

MRPOLITISHQ

11:20 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Reg this PARTICULAR statement...

Ippon says "Today only they wounded a 10 year old girl and killed a few innocent palestinians - the 10 year old kid must be a terrorist."

@Ippon
Why can't you provide a source so that people know you're a serious customer and not a window-shopper. Vilks and TNP brought this up before as well. It makes you more credible. And if you're speaking the truth, it shouldn't be a problem.

@LIVITY
What ippon wrote here, in this particular case is certainly not anti-semitic and not reason enough for his account to get banned. Why don't you simply ask him for a source. If he comes up with one, great. You can now rebut it and prove him wrong. If he doesn't, people following the comments on this blog won't take him seriously (I, for instance have noted this sourceless writing of his and I'm sure, have many others).

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

2:44 PM ET

July 22, 2010

well you guys, the thing with

well you guys, the thing with Ippon is that he copy and pastes his tirades and propaganda on many different posts, even 3 times on the same blog article. That can be considered trolling.
He does not have new responses but rather tries to make his statements count by stating them enough.

 

MRPOLITISHQ

7:40 AM ET

July 24, 2010

All I did was ask for a source...

and you didn't give me one. Period.

 

HARIPRASAD

10:25 PM ET

July 21, 2010

What to say

I think Tony Judt had it right during the Israel Lobby debate. Too bad people can't follow it.

"You cannot help it if idiots and bigots share your views for their reasons. That doesn’t mean that you can be taught with their views. You have your views and they should be judged on their merits and it worries me that the very first thing we do when someone writes a controversial essay, whatever it’s academic standing, about the Israel lobby, about relations between this country and Israel. The first question is not, what is the truth or falsity of the substance of it, but how much does it come close to anti-semitism, does it help the anti-semites should we not have said it, because of anti-semitism issue, this seems to me to close down conversation with this country"

 

MRPOLITISHQ

11:34 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Thanks for this

This needs to be quoted after every instance of "Even the KKK/Neo-Nazis/Jihadis endorse what you say..."

 

SIN NOMBRE

11:37 PM ET

July 21, 2010

Or is it that his sauce should be somehow different too?

Well let's see ... the obvious premise of pieces such as Lee's are that some people have hidden agendas and that it's perfectly okay to question same. And indeed, one might respond, that can be reasonable, although it ought to be done rather carefully so as to not promiscuously slander people. But so long as what's sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander....

So ... what about Mr. Lee's hidden agenda? Let's see ... can't really accuse Walt or Sullivan or Weiss or etc. as being anti-semitic based on any direct evidence of their statements, thus leaving the best he can point to are ... comments they are entirely innocent of making themselves that merely appear on their blogs and that have been made by others, and that Walt, Sullivan and etc. have not even praised if even noticed....

As Walt himself notes, Haaretz itself publishes many many comments in response to its stories that are as equally anti-Israeli or anti-semitic as he and Weiss and etc. do, if not many many more, yet obviously Haaretz isn't anti-semitic.

So what secret agenda might Mr. Lee have that accounts for his charges, especially given the ridiculous weakness of his argument?

Oh, oh, I know! Must be that which Walt and Sullivan and Weiss and etc. all share in common, right? I.e., being effective questioners of America's special relationship with Israel.

Ergo ... as opposed to the ridiculous evidence that Walt and Sullivan and Weiss and etc. are secret anti-semites, it seems to me in comparison there's simply a stunningly obvious bit of evidence that Mr. Lee is purely and simply a shill for a foreign power.

 

COUNTCHOCULA1011

12:29 AM ET

July 22, 2010

On a more serious note

Has anybody else noticed that the same tactics that are used to smear anyone who speaks out against Israeli policies are also being used against the Tea Party? Now, I am no fan of the Tea Party (especially the Palin elements within it), but at the same time, I find it highly inflammatory to label the Tea Party as racist as many news programs and organizations have done. Are there racist elements within it? Probably, but I've met racist Democrats; does that make the Democratic Party racist? I don't know, maybe I am wrong, but I get the feeling that these people are adopting the same tactics used by Israeli defenders.

 

HUGH

1:31 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Good point

Good point. The same people who are slurring critics of Israel are often deeply hostile to the Tea Party, particularly its grassroots American populism. The ADL's probably the best example of a group that's at the forefront of slandering the Tea Partiers while also slandering those who ask questions about America's relationship with Israel. So it's not that much of a surprise if the same tactics are used.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN II

5:17 AM ET

July 22, 2010

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

5:52 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Khan got banned too? And

Khan got banned too?

And seriously Khan. You are the last one to talk about copy and pasting. It is half your arguments and probably why your account got deleted in the first place. Btw, dont you feel just a little famous now? You are probably one of the main racist bloggers that your Reverend, or Imam, Walt has great disdain for apparently.

 

LYN17

6:20 AM ET

July 22, 2010

On the contrary

I hadn't noticed that at all.

The Tea Party (as far as I know) is utterly in the pro-Israel camp, except maybe the Nazi/KKK corner.

And, it was the Tea Party's spokesman and leader who wrote a racist letter. In other words, the charges of racism against the Tea Party probably are on solid ground.

While there are some in this country who speak out against Israel's policies who have an anti-semitic side to them, they certainly aren't leaders in the movement to free Palestine. The movement to free Palestine composed mainly of anti-racists, and the accusation of anti-semitism is largely trumped up. Of course you can find some serious anti-semitism among people who're victims of Israel's mass murders. But even Hamas and Hezbollah leaders are known to welcome Jews who visit them in the spirit of justice, including Israeli Jews and zionists. Well people like that are likely to suffer persecution and prosecution from Israel. Some have been deliberately shot, some jailed.

When you come right down to it a lot of Israel's solid supporters are solidly anti-semitic - like Rev. Hagee who wants all the Jews to go to Israel and die in the apocalypse.

Sure the smearing of those who criticize Israel is a tactic, but I don't think the charge against the Tea Party is just a tactic.

 

LUCCHESI

5:26 PM ET

July 22, 2010

You are certainly

Qualified to be talking about propaganda, Khan.

 

DUGLARRI

5:36 PM ET

July 22, 2010

AMOSYARKONI - you are writing the destruction of Israel

To AMOSYARKONI; you, and people like you, have forever misunderstood that people like Walt are the only chance for Israel's survival. Friends don't let friends drive drunk; Israel is currently careening wildly down a road to destruction. Walt and the others are trying to rein in these policies that cause people who don't care one way or the other- the bulk of mankind- to turn their backs on this little country of six million in the middle of a billion Muslims. You expect blind acceptance of any and all policies Israel might choose to implement- including mass murder- and in exchange, you demand the protection of the world, in the form of money, arms, and acquiescence- for Greater Israel. Let's face it; that's the project. The world must do something about Iran's threat to Isreal- so says Bibi- remember?

There's a step beyond opposing the Lobby- it's called indifference. Rave at these people long enough and they will stop writing about Israel, and will stop caring- and maybe stop paying, too. It's when people wash their hands of Israel, like my neighbors around here, recent emigrants from Israel, who have turned their backs on the whole mess, and who, as Jews, have chosen to live in peace elsewhere- that's when Israel falls.

 

ADAMO4428

9:20 PM ET

July 22, 2010

To the professor at Johns Hopkins University

Mr. Walt,

I find it deplorable that you and those academics who share the same views are subject to so much foolishness. I wish that your critics would focus their efforts on producing a meaningful and well researched paper rather than speculate as to any personal prejudice you might harbor. I commend you for having the courage to hold an opinion that differs so greatly from the mainstream.

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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