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Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has sensibly concluded that when the United States: 1) Is facing massive federal budget deficits, combined with a looming fiscal crisis at the state and local levels, 2) Is already spending more on national security than the rest of the world combined, and 3) Faces no "peer competitors" or dangerous great powers nearby, then it makes sense to make a few modest cuts in its military spending.

Of course, patriotic Congressmen will now fight tooth-and-nail to preserve spending in their states or districts, so it's not even clear how much money will ultimately be saved. But it's a step in the right direction, and Gates deserves credit for seeing where the wind was blowing and for addressing the problem, even if only in a modest way.

Just don't lose sight of the real issue, which is not so much the amount of money we devote to national security as the purposes for which we use these capabilities. It doesn't make much sense to cut spending if you're going to continue to use the military on ill-advised missions; in fact, if you have a very ambitious foreign policy, then you ought to expect to spend a lot of blood and treasure on it. As the Times noted this morning, the White House backed Gates's plan, saying that "his plan would free money that could be better spent on war fighting." And when some key elements of your foreign policy make you very unpopular in large swathes of the world, it will probably fuel anti-American terrorism and create dangers that might not exist otherwise, or at least might not be as large or as difficult to address.

In other words, the debate that is about to occur about Pentagon cuts is mostly a disagreement about the allocation of pork and short-term priorities. Gates did not propose any change in the roles and missions of the U.S. armed forces, in our international commitments, or even our overall force levels. His proposals do not invite a debate about the fundamentals of U.S. grand strategy. And until that debate occurs, don't expect major changes in America's force posture or its underlying belief that it has the right and/or responsibility to intervene in far-flung corners of the world, even when vital interests are not at stake and when we don't really have any idea how to run these places reliably.

On the latter point, I hope you caught the delicious irony on General Ray Odierno's statement that U.S. forces in Iraq were now there "to prevent foreign powers from meddling with Iraq's new government" (h/t Yglesias and Greenwald). It's easy to lampoon such a comment -- weren't we "meddling" just a bit when we invaded in 2003? -- but the real lesson is that this is how virtually all imperial powers tend to see their own conduct.  Great Britain claimed to shoulder the "white man's burden" (i.e. to bring civilization to its benighted colonial subjects), and the French saw their colonial role as "la mission civilizatrice." The former Soviet Union thought it was helping spread the benefits of socialism to its Third World clients, and the United States has convinced itself that it is spreading freedom, democracy, liberty, the rule of law, "world order," etc.   

I don't know if countries tell themselves this sort of thing in order to rally support for interventionist policies, or to convince other states that their actions are inspired by noble aims rather than the self-interested dictates of realpolitik (probably both). Whatever the motivation, I remain convinced that the United States would be better off if it devoted more attention to nation-building here at home, and somewhat less to fruitless efforts to do so abroad, especially in those places where the preconditions for Western-style liberal democracy are sorely lacking.

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HAZZA9

3:08 PM ET

August 10, 2010

Sense in a cent-less world.

And yet, as you've countlessly stated, more on more gets piled on the In-tray.

Then again, the national myth of American "exceptionalism" should (theoretically) make this an easy move.

Who else could possibly rule the world and snatch a bargain while doing so?

 

DEPETRIS@WORDPRESS.COM

2:08 AM ET

August 11, 2010

Gates is a visionary with fiscal discipline

Secretary Gates is on the right track with Defense spending. Getting rid of an entire command structure- such as Joint Forces Command in Virginia- is not an easy thing to do. It takes a whole lot of guts, thick-skin to head off criticism from the hawks in Congress, and a willingness to adopt unpopular policies for the benefit of the collective good. And by shutting down JFCOM, cutting the number of contractors by 10 percent for the next three years, and eliminating some useless reports, Gates is trying to usher in a brand new era of fiscal restraint at the Pentagon. It should be applauded, not criticized Every department and every agency in the U.S. Government is getting this reviewed in the hopes of saving money across the board, and the DoD should not be excluded.

Of course, the central themes of U.S. grand strategy remains unchanged, as Walt mentions. The U.S still regards itself as a superpower with certain global responsibilities, one of which happens to intervene in remote areas that are prone to the types of violence that could hit us here at home. But blaming the SecDef for not reviewing the way the U.S. conducts its foreign policy is throwing the wrong person under the bus. It's the President of the United States who controls the way the U.S. engages the world and goes about its business- in both times of peace and in times of war. Therefore, it's the President's responsibility to re-evaluate U.S. foreign policy. Gates can recommend cutting personnel and he can recommend a review of America's treaty commitments. But the President is the only actor that has the authority to sign off.

As far as the assertion that Gates "proposals do not invite a debate about the fundamentals of U.S. grand strategy," just wait a few days for the columns and articles to come out. I'm sure some defense hawks will start implying that cutting the defense budget will have terrible implications for America's role in the world.

http://www.atlanticsentinel.com

 

AHGUY

5:56 PM ET

August 12, 2010

I think Gates is on track

If you look at JFCOM, they are little more than another level of beuracracy and elimintating them will not affect the military's ability to conduct its mission. Given our current economic state, Gates' actions send the right message - DOD is not exempt from making difficult fiscal decisions.

Having seen Gates testify before congress, I am impressed by his intelligence and ability to play the political game while meeting his responsibilities as SECDEF. He has brought a breath of fresh air to the military - namely in terms of candor and accountability. I definitely agree with Depetris in that Gates is responsible for executing the President's foreign policy, not reviewing it.

As for the ~5k jobs lost at JFCOM, I wouldn't worry too much. Most are government civilians and therefore can't be fired/laid off - the DOD will be required to find them a job at the same pay level or higher. The contractors, however, are out of luck.

The only thing he needs to be careful about when cutting DOD is the "do more with less" philosophy that dominated Clinton's presidency. Everyone accepts that military spending cuts are inevitable, including a drawdown. Granted, we spend more on defense than every other nation combined, but we also do more than every other nation. As we cut spending (and hence capabilities), we need to make commensurate cuts in our military obligations.

 

A BALANCED VIEW

10:41 AM ET

August 11, 2010

Why was my "a balanced view" account wiped out?

My entire account, and every single comment I have ever made here was very recently deleted. Has this happened to anyone else? My comments were never out of line, off topic, and, while often coming from an anti Israeli settlement/ Israeli occupation perspective, always maintained a positive view of Israel and it's people within the green line. I would say that my comments would be in line with left leaning Israelis; ie, not anti-Semitic, or anti Israel, in any way. CRITICAL of Israel, yes, but not anti Israel.

I was not banned for any sort of misbehavior, as far as I can tell, as I was able to use this screen name again.

Whats up? I have commented here for a pretty good while, and EVERY comment I have ever made is gone, while the responses to them, often riddled with expletives, insults, racial slurs, and other clear violations of posting policy here, remain.

My last comments pertained to Israels future after oil is no longer a national security interest for the US. My position is that if they had not made peace with their neighbors long before that time, they would likely be smack dab in the middle of a region embroiled in chaos, paranoia and panic, and the target of a great deal more hatred and and anger than they face now, and that the US, since we would no longer have any real skin in the game, would no longer be able to stay in the region SOLELY for Israels sake, and that our support would then begin to equal that of nations in Africa who are embroiled in chaos and war; ie, none.

Is this the reason that I was deleted? Can it possibly be that simply adding 2 and 2 is so offensive to someone on the FP staff that they would pull my account? The article that I was responding to laid out the case for the trillions that we have spent to keep oil flowing freely and cheaply in the middle east, and it simply stands to reason that we could not ever justify keeping troops in the region and spending trillions just to safeguard Israel when oil no longer matters.

I hope I am being paranoid here, and that this is just some technical glitch.

 

GRANT

2:52 PM ET

August 11, 2010

If you've got a complaint

If you've got a complaint take it up with the site administrators. I'll admit that they seem to take a long time to respond but you shouldn't post your complaints in areas meant for discussion of the topic at hand.

 

A BALANCED VIEW

11:02 AM ET

August 11, 2010

For some greater context,

For some greater context, here , for instance, is a reply to one of my now deleted posts, which remains, while mine (including none of the insults, expletives, slurs, or distortions (in my opinion)) are deleted.

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A balanced view? You sound like a whiny turd

You haven't been to Israel, don't speak Arabic or Hebrew, so I am sure your opinion is really true!

Desmond tutu is a 3rd world advocating fool.

Second of all, you still haven't told me how its apartheid. you just spout idiotic opinion on genocide and ethnic cleansing. Tell me one village that was "ethnically cleansed" like in Kosovo or Bosnia. You can't you piss ant.

Palestinians are under their own government under territory under their own control. Like Mexicans in Mexico. This is not apartheid dipshit fag."

This is from "VILKSSWEDEN1", who I guess embodies everything that one should strive to emulate, here at foreign Policy, as he remains, and I get the axe. So, what rule did I break, that this guy, and myriad others who responded to my posts in a similar manner, did not? I have NEVER used that sort of language, or slurs in a response ever.

 

SCOTTINDALLAS

11:22 AM ET

August 11, 2010

"democracy?" let's define our terms.

"and somewhat less to fruitless efforts to do so abroad, especially in those places where the preconditions for Western-style liberal democracy are sorely lacking. "

I think you've been captured as evidenced by this quote. These nations often have some democracy, more than we do, where every candidate is "vetted" by the powers that be to be more milquetoast, false dichotomy pandering.

Whereas there is a remarkable coincidence, no coincidence that WE have intervened in their elections for years before we condemn their "democracy." Iraqis voted for a Jewish Mayor in Bagdad in the 70's, Lebanon has undemocratic rules placed by France 92 years ago, favoring the Christian minority there. Of course Hamas wins an election and we call it a violent takeover.

Our Pentagon defends nothing save profligate waste. I support auditing the Fed AND the Pentagon. Our military is so vast, we are literally fighting ourselves, as we are arming and funding the Taliban as we fight them.

 

GUYVER

2:20 PM ET

August 11, 2010

Democracy

We are all in support of spreading democracy but that does not mean going to war. But the truth is the US was never interested in spreading democracy since elected officials, compared to puppets, might oppose US policies.

 

RANDAL

2:50 PM ET

August 11, 2010

Speaking of breathtaking irony

As highlighted by antiwar.com, there was another piece of shameless and un-self-aware irony from U.S. State Department spokesman Philip Crowley yesterday, when he asserted that Iranian actions that "directly or indirectly" compromise Lebanese sovereignty were among the reasons the US supports the Lebanese government and military.

This in response to a US threat to pull aid from Lebanon's military if it acts again in ways the US doesn't like on its disputed border with Israel, and an alert Iranian offer to replace said aid!

I suppose when reality conflicts with an imperial self-justification myth as strongly as it does in the case of modern America, such ironies are likely to abound.

When "we" interfere in other countries it's for their own good and isn't sovereignty infringing, unlike when the baddies do so. Just like when "we" kill people it's tragically necessary or at worst an unfortunate error in a good cause, but when baddies do it, it's ruthless and unforgiveable murder. Why oh why can't everyone just accept this?

 

GRANT

2:54 PM ET

August 11, 2010

The cuts probably wouldn't

The cuts probably wouldn't save that much. If I recall correctly even the most widely publicized one in Virginia wouldn't even save a billion dollars.

On spending compared to the world, I will once again remind people that comparing dollar amounts isn't that useful. We should be measuring it as a percentage of the GNP*.

*I'll admit that more than once I have erroneously used the term 'GDP'. This is the correct one.

 

BEN DOVER

3:05 PM ET

August 11, 2010

I wouldn't even call it a shave

The Pentagon's budget is not being decreased by one penny. The cost savings will be used towards more advanced weaponry to fight people who live in caves and use $8 worth of electronic parts to make IEDs to kill US soldiers and destroy million dollar equipment. This announcement isn't really any progress.

 

KIMAC

6:59 PM ET

August 11, 2010

Not even a shave...

....as with other comments, begins to get at the heart of the matter: this is not about national defense. Its about serving the needs of business, either in the form of our neo-colonialism or of all these pigs chowing down on defense pork.

If it were otherwise, Joe Biden's general perspective on withdrawing from Iraq (putting aside how we got there), as well as Afpak, would have been adopted at a small fraction of the cost of what we're doing, and with FAR more assurance of addressing legitimate national security needs.

Of course, we are totally addicted to the current scenario, with our reliance on cheap oil, etc. If even 10% of the defense budget were simply cut, some hundreds of thousands of people (someone help me out here), would go directly to unemployement. A terminal non-starter politically.

Nothing short a TRUE national security crises is going to shake up things, and nothing short of a TRUE national disaster/calamity/threat stands a change of keeping the pressure on in a way that will lead to systemic change.

Make your investments accordingly.

 

BOB SPENCER

7:23 PM ET

August 11, 2010

This could be exciting!

Check this passage from Secretary Gate's recent Foreign Affairs article.

"Nonetheless, it is time to move beyond
the ideological debates and bureaucratic
squabbles that have in the past characterized
the issue of building partner
capacity and move forward with a set
of solutions that can address what will
be a persistent and enduring challenge.
Last year, I sent Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton one proposal that I see
as a starting point for discussion of the
way ahead. It would involve pooled funds
set up for security capacity building,
stabilization, and conflict prevention."

His lead point in the article is that we do not have very good skills at collaborating with people and leaders in places where a threat may erupt. He says we need to learn how to collaborate.

He is opening up a discussion that could lead to a more enlightened and less expensive approach. What's more; once we start a discussion like that, he may be the one that starts a culture of calculation and less ideology. At that point, people might even start a serious discussion about our best national interests. Stephen Walt would probably enjoy that.

Bob Spencer

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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