Monday, January 3, 2011 - 12:00 PM

It's a New Year, and there's more news from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. No surprise: It's not good. Over the weekend a 36-year-old Palestinian woman, Jawahar Abu Rahmah, died after inhaling tear gas fired at a demonstration at Bilin in the occupied territories. For eyewitness accounts and useful commentary, check out the Israeli website +972mag here.
Please note that Abu Rahmah wasn't a suicide bomber, wasn't firing rockets, and wasn't demanding an end to the Jewish state. She posed no direct threat to Israel's security at all. Instead, along with other courageous Israeli and Palestinian activists, she was merely protesting the illegal construction of Israel's "security fence" (aka "apartheid wall") near the village of Bilin. According to the New York Times, Israel's High Court declared in 2007 that "the barrier at Bilin should be rerouted to take in less of the village's agricultural land. That work has still not been completed." It is also worth noting that she was the second member of her family to die in this way; her brother Bassem was hit in the chest and killed by an Israeli tear-gas canister in 2009. (The tear gas, by the way, is manufactured right here in the United States).
Meanwhile, back in America, a number of prominent commentators are beginning to figure out that the Zionist dream is becoming a nightmare. First came Peter Beinart's important piece in the New York Review of Books a few months ago. Then, in the past couple of weeks, New Yorker editor David Remnick has given several interviews condemning the occupation in unusually blunt terms. Even die-hard defenders like Marty Peretz and Jeffrey Goldberg have expressed concerns about Israel's trajectory, wondering if it will remain a democracy.
These are hopeful signs because progress is only possible if we take an unsentimental look at the situation there. And the central point is that Israel's problems are not due to a handful of extremist rabbis, authoritarian tendencies among the recent Russian immigrants, or even the growing percentage of haredim. The core problem remains the occupation itself, which is a project that every Israeli government since 1967 has endorsed and supported. It is by now deeply embedded in the Israeli political establishment, which is why it will be so hard -- and maybe impossible -- to end. Among other things, that is why I have so much admiration for those courageous Israelis who understand where this course is leading and who are doing what they can to save their country from itself. (And yes, this unhappy situation affects America too, as even the Weekly Standard seemed to acknowledge indirectly last week).
Finally, in a bizarre bit of CYA diplomacy, the Israeli press is reporting that unnamed U.S. officials are now blaming the failure of the latest peace negotiations on Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak. According to the reports, Barak "charmed" U.S. officials into thinking that he could persuade Netanyahu to agree to a settlement freeze and other compromises, but then Barak failed to deliver as promised. "See: It's not really our fault; we just got hoodwinked by that wily fellow Barak."
In fact, if this report is even remotely accurate, it is yet another display of diplomatic incompetence on the part of Obama's Middle East team. Ehud Barak is hardly an unknown figure, and nobody who dealt with him during his earlier tenure as prime minister should have accepted his blandishments at face value now. When it comes to the peace process, in fact, Barak is a serial blunderer who repeatedly drove Bill Clinton and his Middle East team crazy with his high-handed and mercurial tactics. Even Dennis Ross, who is rarely critical of Israeli officials, expressed considerable exasperation with Barak in his memoir of those years. So what does it say when these same people get taken in by him yet again?
All of which leads me to the following suggestion for U.S. Middle East diplomacy. Given the sorry track record of the past two decades, we ought to establish a simple litmus test for future members of any presidential Middle East team. We just ask if they have any prior government service on this issue, and if the answer is yes, then they are automatically disqualified from serving again. I don't care if you're Protestant, Muslim, Coptic, Catholic, Quaker, Jewish, or Zoroastrian, or if you're a Republican, a Democrat, a realist, a neoconservative, or for that matter a La Follette Progressive. I don't care if you worked for AIPAC, for WINEP, for ATFP, or even for JVP. The rule is simple and clear: If you were directly associated with any of our past (failed) efforts, we thank you for your prior service, but we aren't going to use you again. None of us would go back to the same orthopedist after he or she bungled a knee operation, and we shouldn't keep reusing the same diplomats who have conspicuously failed to deliver in the past.
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neocons support for terror groups as long as it benefits US
Glenn paints the picture quite clearly: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/03/fran_townsend_terrorism/index.html
"See: It's not really our fault; we just got hoodwinked by that wily fellow Barak, and netty ( see Oslo video), and that bug eyed, bar bouncer, moldavian thug of an FM Lieberman, and Olmert, and Sharon, and Rabin, and Peres,and the long list of Israeli's continue the delegitimization of israel by the occupation.
Dennis Ross, a "negotiator" for 30 years should be the first to get the boot. After 30 years he is past his expiration date and has proven his un-usefulness in spades.
Good article Steve - keep it up.
Steve Walt, Analyst or Propagandist?
Jpost reports:
"...Peace Now called on Defense Minister Ehud Barak to set up an external inquiry committee to investigate IDF conduct during the incident.
But the PA rejected an IDF request to receive Abu Rahma’s medical file so that it could determine the cause of death. It also rejected an IDF request to establish a joint commission of inquiry with the PA, which it has done in the past after similar incidents..."
Steve would certainly highlight this suspicious behavior if the circumstances were reversed. As it is, it is ignored.
Also, when Steve invokes the term "Apartheid Wall" when writing about the security fence it is even more obvious than usual that he is writing as a propagandist, not an analyst.
What Jpost report are you referrign to David?
I just checked the JPost report from January 1, and there is no mention of the PA rejecting an IDF request to receive Abu Rahma’s medical file.
NeLeft couldn't find the links, but I did!
Guess he should stick to viewing his conspiracy theory, anti-Zionist websites instead. He is clearly more comfortable navigating those pages instead. www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=201821
Steve Walt, Analyst or Propagandist?
Jpost reports:
"...Peace Now called on Defense Minister Ehud Barak to set up an external inquiry committee to investigate IDF conduct during the incident.
But the PA rejected an IDF request to receive Abu Rahma’s medical file so that it could determine the cause of death. It also rejected an IDF request to establish a joint commission of inquiry with the PA, which it has done in the past after similar incidents..."
Steve would certainly highlight this suspicious behavior if the circumstances were reversed. As it is, it is ignored.
Also, when Steve invokes the term "Apartheid Wall" when writing about the security fence it is even more obvious than usual that he is writing as a propagandist, not an analyst.
The "Palestinian media watch" is back
"Steve would certainly highlight this suspicious behavior if the circumstances were reversed. As it is, it is ignored."
The Palestinian/Israeli demonstration against the Wall was unarmed and the woman died of asphyxia. There were no Palestinian militants around to claim that they may have killed her (like the Pal media watch is still doing regarding Muhammad Al-Durrah).
+972 Magazine reported an unusual quantity of gas canisters being fired at the protestors during that demonstration. Jawaher's brother, who was killed almost on the same spot, died because of a gas canister fired at him with the aim to kill, not to disperse crowds.
Israel Police early Sunday arrested 11 pro-Palestinian activists taking part in a protest outside the home of U.S. Ambassador James Cunningham, north of Tel Aviv. Some of the protestors took empty gas canisters with them, and asked the US ambassador to take them back to Israel. (Ha'aretz)
For some one who is still living in the 1980s, David, it will certainly be difficult to swallow this one too and admit being on the wrong side.
You should be more concerned about the swing of pro-Israel US commentators - because after all, those gas canisters, and most of Israel's armament, come from the USA.
Photos Document Violence During Bil’in Riot This Weekend
http://idfspokesperson.com/2011/01/01/photos-document-violence-during-bilin-riot-this-weekend/
And there are other reports that she wasn't even at the protest. We can't be certain, but my money is on yet another "atrocity" fabricated by the Palestinians, a la the Jenin so-called massacre.
Photos Document Violence During Bil’in Riot This Weekend
Seriously Dave,
Could you scrape the barrel any further?
A sequence of 8 pictures of one guy throwing a rock? Is that he best you can do?
"And there are other reports that she wasn't even at the protest. "
No those are not reports, they are rumors.
"We can't be certain, but my money is on yet another "atrocity" fabricated by the Palestinians, a la the Jenin so-called massacre."
You mean, "atrocity" fabricated by the Palestinians, and later admitted by the Israelis? And if Hebron was a massacre, then so was Jenin.
Neoleft has proven he has no shred of credibility
If he refers to Jenin as a massacre, like his pal Saeb Erekat who claimed "over 500 people are dead" and that he saw "mass graves" being dug by the Israelis (when NONE existed), then you have proven to all here that you are merely a demagogue. You are engaged in a hasbarah effort in support of Palestinian terrorists. Why don;t you move to Gaza to show how big a supporter you really are, or do you not have the stomach for that? No, I think you are just another sorry excuse for a left-wing intellectual pontificating from his recliner while eating Ho-Hos in his underwear. You love the anonymity, the ability to goad and spread hate in the dark, dontcha luv?
I will agree with you about the Hebron Massacre, however. It was a massacre carried out by murderous fedayeen against the 2500 year old Jewish community of Hebron in 1929. Thanks for your word of support there! For those who may be unfamiliar with this event, here is what happened:
of sixty-seven Jews on 23 and 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of the British Mandate of Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors spread by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places. This massacre, together with that of Safed, sent shock waves through Jewish communities in Palestine and across the world.
A crowd armed with staves and axes appeared in the streets and attacked and killed two Jewish boys, one stoned to death and the other stabbed. The mob attacked every Jewish house, shouting "on to the Ghetto" and "Death to the Jews."
In all, sixty-seven Jews were killed and Jewish homes and synagogues were ransacked; The survivors were evacuated from Hebron by the British authorities. Many returned in 1931, but almost all left again during 1936–1939. Jews only began to return to their homes there after Israel retook Judea and Samaria in the Six Day War of 1967. Most of those killed were men, but there were also a dozen women and three children under the age of three. Seven of the victims were older children. Dozens of people were wounded, including many women and children. Several cases of rape, mutilation and torture were reported by British authorities and Jewish victims. It was a vicious atrocity by any standard, made the worse by the fact that several of the Arab policement under British command joined the mob in the blood letting.
Still, there were some shining examples of humanity among the Hebron Arabs. Some local Arab families saved Jews by hiding them in their houses at great risk to themselves. Kudos to them.
THEANTICLAUS the arbiter of credibility?
It's unfortunate you can't make an argument without straw men. I never claimed that Jenin killed 500 people, only that the number killed in Jenin was the same as those killed in Hebron in 1929 which Israeli propagandists insist WAS a massacre.
Nor did I even mention mass graves, but don;t let the facts get ain te way of your [pre prepared talking points.
“Why don't you move to Gaza to show how big a supporter you really are”
I could ask you the same question about why you don'T move to Bil'in. If I'm not mistaken THEANTICLAUS, we are both benefiting from anonymity.
“I will agree with you about the Hebron Massacre”
You mean you agree that Jenin was also a massacre?
That's wonderful THEANTICLAUS. We finally found some common ground,
RE: "a litmus test for members of any presidential M.E. team"
I wonder who actually makes those decisions. Major donors?
Can someone please find an article written by Walt in which he denounces the Palestinian's refusal to come to peace talks or even consider negotiating until settlements (which were never a pre condition in the past, but for somereason have now become some mythical hinderance in which pace can not occur under its auspices).
I'm not the first to notice it and his criticisms are plenty and here is how he answers them:
A) Ignore it, the 100+ pages on criticism from reputable scholars on his poorly written piece, including Harvard's distancing from it
B) As with the Jeffery Goldberg article twist the words to make it sound like Goldberg is making a series of unfounded attacks (claiming he was called an anti-semite when nothing was done nor implied)
C) Blame the Israel Lobby
D) Cite sources when they benefit him, If I listened to Walt I guess Goldberg quoting his article "Goldberg is clearly incapable of being objective or open-minded when the subject is Israel, which is why he quickly descends to innuendo and fabrication when dealing with anyone who criticizes that country's policies, questions America's special relationship with the Jewish state, or raises doubts the activities of the Israel lobby. He invents false charges for a simple reason: It would be impossible to smear us if he had to rely on what we actually said. So he has to make things up." But now that Goldberg wrote an article questioning Israeli policies Walt ignores what he said just a few weeks ago and welcomes them into his argument.
I can't remeber the first article of Walt's that I read but I remeber it was good and made me read him for a few months, but now this is the last one. With each article I find more and more to disagree about Israel being just one. To all you Walt fanatics, flame me away say all the bad things you want about me, ridicule me all you like. But I won't be reading them, nor Walt will I ever return to your channel.
What is left to negotiate GAIUS MARIUS?
The settlements are a permanent fixture and make a Palestinian state impossible, so what's left to negotiate when Israel has already stated that they will not put an end to them?
They are a pre condition now, because they have expanded to the point of no return.
The rest of your post is old and debunked material Gaius. Walt's book was peer reviewed by reputable scholars.
>> But I won't be reading them, nor Walt will I ever return to your channel.
I'm sure you will be missed.
Another insightful peace by +972
The US needs to start training its diplomats earlier!
http://972mag.com/israeli-satire-show-imagines-a-right-wing-kindergarten/
The occupation of the West Bank and Gaza
The solution is simple as far I'm concerned.
Negotiate a peace treaty to realize a viable and healthy Palestine along the guidelines of 67 borders, with only consented modifications.
And, for Netanyahu, to cease settlement expansion now, regardless of what has occurred previously, towards that end. Do a two-year settlement moratorium. If there is not significant progress in that time, then the thesis that Palestinians don't want or can't figure out what they want, is more plausible.
Simple.
It leaves a viable Israel and a viable Palestine.
NONE of the maximalists on either side are satisfied with that conclusion though.
There are no easy answers to this issue, and no easy heroes and villains. Actually, one large problem is that there are too many easy villains, that very very few articulate plausibly "what would I do differently", including Dr Walt.
Proposal is the only relevant product of analysis or of dissent.
The implausibility of excluding anyone with experience
It is parallel to asking that only those that have never stated an opinion on any topic that they are teaching about, be permitted to achieve tenure at a major university.
Forget the peace talks. Just clear the West Bank and Gaza of Palestinians to get rid of the source of violence once and for all. The British Mandate and the 1948 UN resolution declared Jordan is the free and independent Palestinian state. That's your 2 state solution. Quit trying for the 3 state solution. Another Palestinian state serves no purpose other than to advance the agenda of the destruction of Israel.
Now you want to listen to the UN ?
OK, then let's re-inforce the 1967 borders and take it from there.
Wait, I forgot - the UN only has credibility when it favors Israel
You can be a racist without lying about it JKOLAK
"The British Mandate and the 1948 UN resolution declared Jordan is the free and independent Palestinian state."
False, but nice try. That what the Zionists hoped it would be.
BTW. Israel was founded on violence and terrorism, so surely it can't be all bad.
Dr Walt, please bring all the facts and don't selectively choose
Them, that is a ridiculous argument to make, you cannot possibly want someone to not take patr in negotiations because they already had that job before and didn't get to the result you wanted,
be careful" if there will be peace you will have nothing to write about" .
Is it bad to have people who have experience and know all the players the complex problems and the possible ways to go about solving them?, unfortunately a lot of foreigners do not understand the Middle East including you.
Barak has made the most generous offer to Arafat, and you can ask Bill clinton why there was no agreement at camp David, Prince Bandar said that arafat has robbed the palestinians for a reason, because arafat had the power to change things but he didn't have the balls to give up the right of return.
Barak is an ex prime minister , chief of staff and secretery of defense, he knows all the issues inside out and he went the furthest in order to reach an agreement.
He cannot be easily replaced. some problems are not solved because of the circumstances and not because of the people who are trying to solve them.
There is no such thing as palestinian land unless it is private land there was never an entity or a country called palestine. resolution 242 says that there should be negotiations so you have no legal claim but still it shouldn't be populated with Israelis because there is a large palestinian population and it doesn't help the situation . Unfortunately that lady died but there are some questions to be answered and the palestinians are refusing to cooperate in the investigation, after all it wouldn't be the first time they lied about such things, muhamad al dura jenin jenin, and many more.
The wall has proven to be an effective tool in preventing suicide bombers from coming in to Israel, so people who are disrupting it's building are hurting Israels security, it isn't if the motivation for attacks is down it is just that the israeli's have gotten really good at preventing them, there shouldn't be a settlement expansion and everything should be negotiated about you cannot expect the Israelis to leave everything while there is terror and incitement going on, especially after leaving lebanon and gaza and getting Iran on our doorstep instead.
When people keep failing Budah, they need to be replaced
"Is it bad to have people who have experience and know all the players the complex problems and the possible ways to go about solving them?"
These same people have had 43 years to get their act together. It's time for new ideas don't you think, especialyl when they they've been exposed for serious conflicts of interest?
"Barak has made the most generous offer to Arafat, and you can ask Bill clinton why there was no agreement at camp David, Prince Bandar said that arafat has robbed the palestinians for a reason, because arafat had the power to change things but he didn't have the balls to give up the right of return."
You know that's competely false Budah, so who are you trying to fool? Even Dennis Ross admits that Clinton was acting as Israel's legal team, not a mediator.
Barak actually went to Camp David telling his constituents that he had no intention of negotiating with Arafat, went to show that Arafat was not serious. As Shlomo Ben Ami, Israel's foreign minister at the time said, if he had been a Palestinian, he too would have rejected Barak's Camp David offer.
"There is no such thing as palestinian land unless it is private land there was never an entity or a country called palestine"
Of course there was. There are maps of the region from 600BC showing a territory called Palestine.
"Unfortunately that lady died but there are some questions to be answered and the Palestinians are refusing to cooperate in the investigation, after all it wouldn't be the first time they lied about such things, muhamad al dura jenin jenin, and many more."
That lie has already been debunked. As always, Israel's lies are exposed.
\http://theonlydemocracy.org/2011/01/israeli-armys-anonymous-version/
"The wall has proven to be an effective tool in preventing suicide bombers from coming in to Israel, so people who are disrupting it's building are hurting Israels security"
False again. 3000 Palestinians climb over, around and through the wall every day, so anyone wishing to carry out a suicide attack could easily do so.
Israeli Army’s anonymous version of Jawaher’s death contradicted
...by everyone
" One of the proudest moments on this blog for me came when we were among the people covering the Rachel Corrie’s attempt to bring desperately needed supplies to Gaza in the aftermath of the 9 killings aboard the Mavi Marmara. Covering the event live on twitter as the Israeli army jammed all communications gave me a clear sense of who was trying to get the truth out as best we could, and who wanted it stifled. I felt the army censorship personally in a way that had only been abstract for me before. Israel was able to suppress the story that night, but of course the people aboard the Rachel Corrie, as well as the Mavi Marmara continued to speak out. The short term victory was completely offset by the steady deterioration of Israeli crediblity.
Now another person is dead, this time a Palestinian protesting on her own land. Again, it is the Israeli army trying desperately to convince us that she was stricken by cancer in a single day. Fortunately, +972 magazine has gathered eyewitness testimony to demolish the army’s version of events, and I am extremely proud to have one of our tweets be part of the evidence against their ludicrous claims."
http://theonlydemocracy.org/2011/01/israeli-armys-anonymous-version/
I just returned from the region and saw the protests first hand. Very nice staging for the cameras there, who made sure to catch Israeli firing of tear gas and charging at the rioters. Mysteriously, the camermen there turned their cameras away from the ?peaceful protesters? whenever they threw rocks or pieces of concrete at the Israelis. The media were cleearly complicit in the violence and worked in concert with the Palestinians. And when Walt acts as a propagandist by calling the security fence an "apartheid wall" it is clear he is no dispassionate scholar. He is nearly one of many apologists for the Palestinians and other radical Islamist forces. Forces that are anti-democratic and seek to spread their poisonous hatred world wide.
Yuo were there were you THEANTICLAUS?
"I just returned from the region and saw the protests first hand."
Sure, and I just returned from a trip to the moon.
In any case, save your breath. Haaretz, who yesterday were reporting the IDF version of events has done a 180 about face:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/bil-in-eyewitnesses-woman-killed-by-tear-gas-wasn-t-protesting-1.335257
The media were clearly complicit in the violence and worked in concert with the Palestinians.
"And when Walt acts as a propagandist by calling the security fence an "apartheid wall" it is clear he is no dispassionate scholar."
What other "fence" do you know of is 5 meters high and made of concrete?
You Hasbarats are getting so desperate it's almost sad to behold
Poor Neo-Nut--Can't accept, or state, the facts!
Yes, chaver, I was there, and everything I said was true. Of course, the same cannot be said of you. Your postings are always filled with lies. You are a demagogue in every sense of the word.
For instance, regarding what you and your false idol Walt describe as a "wall" is in actuality a fence along the vast majority (over 90%) of its route. This is something you would know, if like me, you travelled to the region to see the truth for yourself. Of course, you could also open a book, but we both know you are not interested in the truth, because, as I said before, you are an ideologue only interested in scoring imaginary points by spreading propaganda. Truth would get in the way of this goal. BTW, in the areas it is a wall, it is that way to prevent frequent rifle fire at Israeli communities and highways, as around Qalqilyah.
Terrorism has been defined throughout the international community as a crime against humanity. As such, the State of Israel not only has the right but also the obligation to do everything in its power to lessen the impact and scope of terrorism on the citizens of Israel. The Security Fence is an operational concept conceived by the Israeli Defense Establishment in order to reduce the number of terrorist attacks whether in the form of explosive- rigged vehicles or in the form of suicide bombers who enter into Israel with the intention of murdering innocent babies, children, women and men. Sadly, this abhorrent phenomenon has become common practice since September 2000. In terms of reducing terrorism, the fence is an unqualified success.
As for your comment about the Bilin incident, it is very likely another Palestinian fabrication that this woman was killed by the IDF. This has all the trappings of a new blood libel against Israel, and it fits with a pattern of media manipulation and outright fraud typically committed by pro-Pal groups. Again, I have witnessed these shenanigans first hand. I truly don't care if a poser such as yourself believes me or not.
Every Friday, Israeli anti-Zionist activists, Palestinian Authority employees, and foreign anti-Israel groups join forces at Bil’in. Together they attack IDF soldiers guarding construction of the separation barrier adjacent to Bil’in village. On Saturday, the PA claimed that Jawaher Abu Rahma, a woman from Bil’in, died from tear gas inhalation at the previous day’s riot. The PA’s chief negotiator Saeb Erekat claimed that her death was an IDF war crime.
Erekat, of course, has not distinguished himself as a paragon of truthfulness. To the contrary. He has a long track record of spreading lies about Israel on the international stage. In just one notable example, in April 2002, Erekat claimed in several television appearances that the IDF killed more than 500 people at Jenin refugee camp during Operation Defensive Shield. He also claimed that the IDF buried some 300 people in mass graves. The UN later reported that during the pitched battle in Jenin refugee camp, 52 Palestinians were killed, at least half were confirmed combatants. Twenty-three IDF soldiers were killed in the battle. So much for Palestinian credibility.
Despite Erekat’s rich history of lies, B’Tselem’s executive director Jessica Montell joined his bandwagon immediately. As NGO Monitor documented, in a Twitter post on Saturday, Montell wrote, “Sad start to the year. Jawaher Abu Rahma died this morning after inhaling tear gas yesterday in Bil’in demonstration.” Her claim was echoed in similar statements from her fellow Israeli anti-Zionist pressure groups. Anarchists Against the Wall, Yesh Din, Gush Shalom, Physicians for Human Rights – Israel, and attorney Michel Sfard, who is associated with Yesh Din, Al-Haq and Breaking the Silence, all alleged that the IDF murdered Abu Rahma with tear gas.
As luck would have it, though, eyewitnesses say that Abu Rahma didn’t even participate in the weekly riot. Ilham Abu Rahma, her 19-year-old cousin and neighbor, told Britain’s Independent that the deceased was at home when the riot took place. For its part, the IDF has reported that the medical information it received about Abu Rahma’s death is not consistent with death through overexposure to tear gas. During her hospitalization, Abu Rahma received an unusual mix of drugs that is usually only administered to treat poisoning, drug overdose or leukemia. The IDF also revealed that Abu Rahma had been recently hospitalized at a Palestinian hospital.
The easiest way to determine what caused Abu Rahma’s death would of course have been to perform an autopsy. The IDF asked for one to be performed. But the PA refused the request and instead buried her in record time. Something smells fishy...or maybe that is just NeoLefty's credibility lying on the rubbish heap!
The PA Still Supports Terrorism and Opposes Peace with Israel
The Palestinian Authority is threatening that the peace process would be harmed if Israel launched a military operation to stop the rockets and missiles that are being fired from the Gaza Strip.
In other words, the Palestinian Authority leadership is warning Israel against defending itself from the attacks carried out by Hamas and other radical Islamic groups in the Gaza Strip.
Apparently, the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank believes that the rockets and missiles that have been pouring on Israel in recent weeks are beneficial to the peace process.
There is no doubt that another war in the Gaza Strip would be disastrous for the Palestinians living there. But the best way to avoid such a war is by calling on Hamas and the other radical groups to stop the attacks.
There is, additionally, a large degree of hypocrisy in the Palestinian Authority's position regarding the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. Diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks have shown that the Palestinian Authority leadership actually appealed for Israel's help to get rid of Hamas: there were countless reports indicating that the Palestinian Authority -- expelled by Hamas from the Gaza Strip in 2007 -- had actually assisted Israel during Operation Cast Lead against Hamas two years ago.
Once attacks stopped, Israel would have no excuse to wage another war in the Gaza Strip.
Those who are firing the rockets and missiles are trying to drag Israel into another confrontation that would undoubtedly claim the lives of many Palestinians.
It is possible that those behind the attacks on Israel are seeking to divert attention from Iran's ongoing efforts to destabilize the region. The upsurge in the attacks on Israel come as an international tribunal prepares to hold Hizbullah responsible for the 2005 assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.
The Iranian-backed Hizbullah is desperately nervous about the findings of the tribunal, and is already doing its utmost to discredit the tribunal. The groups in the Gaza Strip that are behind the recent spate of attacks on Israel are also backed and funded by Iran, which has long been trying to undermine moderate Arabs and Muslims.
The real threat to the Middle East peace process is coming from Iran and its proxies in the region. Mahmoud Abbas needs to understand that it is the rockets and missiles -- and not Israel's response to them -- that is threatening to destroy the peace process.
It is likely that Abbas and the Palestinian Authority are well aware of the fact that it is Iran, Hamas and Hizbullah who are seeking to destroy the peace process. But as the WikiLeaks cables have revealed, Arab leaders are often afraid to tell their people the truth.
You shouldn't plagiarise THEANTICLAUS
if you're going to cut and paste, then at least have the decency to link to your Hasbara sources so that they can be checked. Mind you, if my source for this BS was the Hudson Institute ( a right wing think tank), I'd be shamed to admit it too.
“In other words, the Palestinian Authority leadership is warning Israel against defending itself from the attacks carried out by Hamas and other radical Islamic groups in the Gaza Strip.”
False.
Israel has admitted that Hamas are not behind any of these attacks.
“Apparently, the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank believes that the rockets and missiles that have been pouring on Israel in recent weeks are beneficial to the peace process.”
Apparently, the Israeli leadership believes that the siege on Gaza, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, settlement expansion, and land theft is beneficial to the peace process.
“But the best way to avoid such a war is by calling on Hamas and the other radical groups to stop the attacks.”
They did that once before remember? And then Israel broke the 4 month ceasefire.
Of course, Israel could easily accept Hamas calls for a new ceasefire, but they have ignored the overture.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BN2O820101224
“Once attacks stopped, Israel would have no excuse to wage another war in the Gaza Strip.”
They did for 4 months in 2008, and Israel attached Gaza anyway, choosing the day of the US Presidential elections to provide cover.
This proves that Israel doesn't need an excuse to wage another war (aka massacre) in the Gaza Strip.
“It is possible that those behind the attacks on Israel are seeking to divert attention from Iran's ongoing efforts to destabilize the region.”
Not likely, seeing as Iran is not destabilizing the region.
“The upsurge in the attacks on Israel come as an international tribunal prepares to hold Hizbullah responsible for the 2005 assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.”
Yes, a UN tribunal that is taking orders from Washington and decided to pin the blamer on Hezbollah rather than Syria, after Syria began helping the US in Iraq.
“The groups in the Gaza Strip that are behind the recent spate of attacks on Israel are also backed and funded by Iran, which has long been trying to undermine moderate Arabs and Muslims.”
False. Iran has actually been the loudest voice calling for a nuclear free Middle East.
There is no threat to the Middeleast peace process. Everyone knows it died a long time ago.
So, Iran is Considered the Voice of reason by Neo-Nut?
Really? Hmmm, I must have missed that among all the statements calling for the destruction of Israel, claiming the Holocaust was a fabrication, or the threats to the sovereignty of Bahrain and Lebanon. Ahmadin-a-nut-job must be a friend of yours.
More evidence of the lack of credibility of NGOs and Arab sources:
Yes, chaver, I was there, and everything I said was true. Of course, the same cannot be said of you. Your postings are always filled with lies. You are a demagogue in every sense of the word.
For instance, regarding what you and your false idol Walt describe as a "wall" is in actuality a fence along the vast majority (over 90%) of its route. This is something you would know, if like me, you travelled to the region to see the truth for yourself. Of course, you could also open a book, but we both know you are not interested in the truth, because, as I said before, you are an ideologue only interested in scoring imaginary points by spreading propaganda. Truth would get in the way of this goal. BTW, in the areas it is a wall, it is that way to prevent frequent rifle fire at Israeli communities and highways, as around Qalqilyah.
Terrorism has been defined throughout the international community as a crime against humanity. As such, the State of Israel not only has the right but also the obligation to do everything in its power to lessen the impact and scope of terrorism on the citizens of Israel. The Security Fence is an operational concept conceived by the Israeli Defense Establishment in order to reduce the number of terrorist attacks whether in the form of explosive- rigged vehicles or in the form of suicide bombers who enter into Israel with the intention of murdering innocent babies, children, women and men. Sadly, this abhorrent phenomenon has become common practice since September 2000. In terms of reducing terrorism, the fence is an unqualified success.
As for your comment about the Bilin incident, it is very likely another Palestinian fabrication that this woman was killed by the IDF. This has all the trappings of a new blood libel against Israel, and it fits with a pattern of media manipulation and outright fraud typically committed by pro-Pal groups. Again, I have witnessed these shenanigans first hand. I truly don't care if a poser such as yourself believes me or not.
Every Friday, Israeli anti-Zionist activists, Palestinian Authority employees, and foreign anti-Israel groups join forces at Bil’in. Together they attack IDF soldiers guarding construction of the separation barrier adjacent to Bil’in village. On Saturday, the PA claimed that Jawaher Abu Rahma, a woman from Bil’in, died from tear gas inhalation at the previous day’s riot. The PA’s chief negotiator Saeb Erekat claimed that her death was an IDF war crime.
Erekat, of course, has not distinguished himself as a paragon of truthfulness. To the contrary. He has a long track record of spreading lies about Israel on the international stage. In just one notable example, in April 2002, Erekat claimed in several television appearances that the IDF killed more than 500 people at Jenin refugee camp during Operation Defensive Shield. He also claimed that the IDF buried some 300 people in mass graves. The UN later reported that during the pitched battle in Jenin refugee camp, 52 Palestinians were killed, at least half were confirmed combatants. Twenty-three IDF soldiers were killed in the battle. So much for Palestinian credibility.
Despite Erekat’s rich history of lies, B’Tselem’s executive director Jessica Montell joined his bandwagon immediately. As NGO Monitor documented, in a Twitter post on Saturday, Montell wrote, “Sad start to the year. Jawaher Abu Rahma died this morning after inhaling tear gas yesterday in Bil’in demonstration.” Her claim was echoed in similar statements from her fellow Israeli anti-Zionist pressure groups. Anarchists Against the Wall, Yesh Din, Gush Shalom, Physicians for Human Rights – Israel, and attorney Michel Sfard, who is associated with Yesh Din, Al-Haq and Breaking the Silence, all alleged that the IDF murdered Abu Rahma with tear gas.
As luck would have it, though, eyewitnesses say that Abu Rahma didn’t even participate in the weekly riot. Ilham Abu Rahma, her 19-year-old cousin and neighbor, told Britain’s Independent that the deceased was at home when the riot took place. For its part, the IDF has reported that the medical information it received about Abu Rahma’s death is not consistent with death through overexposure to tear gas. During her hospitalization, Abu Rahma received an unusual mix of drugs that is usually only administered to treat poisoning, drug overdose or leukemia. The IDF also revealed that Abu Rahma had been recently hospitalized at a Palestinian hospital.
The easiest way to determine what caused Abu Rahma’s death would of course have been to perform an autopsy. The IDF asked for one to be performed. But the PA refused the request and instead buried her in record time. Something smells fishy...or maybe that is just NeoLefty's credibility lying on the rubbish heap!
Likewise, on Sunday, December 19, the self-proclaimed “Israeli human rights” group B’Tselem disseminated a shocking story to the local and international media. B’Tselem claimed that the previous day, Palestinian shepherd Samir Bani Fadel was peacefully herding his sheep when he was set upon by a mob of Israeli settlers.
He alleged that these kippa-clad Israelis drove up in a car and chased him away. Then they torched the pasture and burned 12 pregnant ewes alive and badly burned five others. B’Tselem furnished reporters with graphic photos of the dead sheep.
While the media published the account without a shred of skepticism, the police found Fadel’s account hard to believe. Observant Jews neither drive nor light fires on Saturdays. And indeed, when questioned by police investigators, Fadel admitted he made the whole attack up. He accidentally killed his herd himself when he set fire to a pile of bramble. Too embarrassed to admit his mistake, he decided to blame the Jews and become a local hero. B’Tselem was only too happy to spread his lies.
On Sunday, December 19, the self-proclaimed “Israeli human rights” group B’Tselem promoted a shocking story to the local and international media. B’Tselem claimed that the previous day, Palestinian shepherd Samir Bany Fadil was peacefully herding his sheep when he was set upon by a mob of Israeli settlers.
He alleged that radical orthodox Jewish Israelis drove up in a car and chased him away. Then they torched the pasture and burned 12 pregnant ewes alive and badly burned five others. The ever-helpful B’Tselem furnished reporters with graphic photos of the dead sheep.
While the media published the account without a shred of skepticism, the police found Fadil’s account hard to believe. Apparently, this Arab eyewitness didn't realize that Orthodox Jews neither drive nor light fires on Saturdays. And indeed, when questioned by police investigators, Fadil admitted he made the whole attack up. He accidentally killed his herd himself when he set fire to a pile of brush. Too embarrassed to admit his mistake, he decided to blame the Jews and become a local hero. B’Tselem was only too happy to spread his lies.
And yes, I was in Israel when this happened too, but I was not fortunate enough to witness that show. Too bad, it would have been funny to watch the idiot set his own livestock on fire.
It's funny how many times you referrd to truth in your post ..
..itself begins with a litany of lies.
“Hmmm, I must have missed that among all the statements calling for the destruction of Israel, claiming the Holocaust was a fabrication, or the threats to the sovereignty of Bahrain and Lebanon. Ahmadin-a-nut-job must be a friend of yours.”
No you didn't miss it THEANTICLAUS, because there are no statements calling for the destruction of Israel, threats to the sovereignty of Bahrain or Lebanon. There aren't even any statements claiming the Holocaust was a fabrication.
I know how hard it must be to create a pro Israeli case without resorting to lies and fabrications THEANTICLAUS, but you an at least try.
“Yes, chaver, I was there, and everything I said was true.”
Given that your posts are suspect at the best do times, or that you post cut and paste screeds from right wing Hasbara blogs, you'll have to excuse us for assuming you made the whole thing up
“For instance, regarding what you and your false idol Walt describe as a "wall" is in actuality a
fence along the vast majority (over 90%) of its route.”
Built at a cost of $1.6 million to $2.5 million per mile, the separation barrier is the largest public construction project in either Israel or the Palestinian Territories. It is almost two-thirds complete.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/arabisraeliconflict/a/me070905b.htm
The wall is larger than the Berlin wall, and the fences are slowly being replaced by walls. That is something you would know if you really had travelled to the region.
“Terrorism has been defined throughout the international community as a crime against humanity.”
But Israel was founded on terrorism and even honoured those terrorist by electing them to lead the country. I fact, in 2006, Israel celebrated the 60th anniversary of a terrorist attack it committed against the British.
Ben Gurion instructed him followers to commit acts of terror after all.
So you see THEANTICLAUS, it rings very hollow when Israel and it's apologists complain about terrorism when Israel stands s a monument to the success of terrorism.
The apartheid wall is not a mechanism for reducing the number of terrorist attacks, because every day, 3000 Palestinians climb over, underneath and through the wall. Any suicide bombers could get through if they so desired. The reason the suicide attacks ended is because Hamas declared an end to them in 2006.
“As for your comment about the Bilin incident, it is very likely another Palestinian fabrication that this woman was killed by the IDF.”
It's a mystery why you have bothered to make this case, when the IDF has admitted otherwise.
“Again, I have witnessed these shenanigans first hand. I truly don't care if a poser such as yourself believes me or not.”
No we don't believe you THEANTICLAUS because your track record of lying is well established.
“Every Friday, Israeli anti-Zionist activists, Palestinian Authority employees, and foreign anti-Israel groups join forces at Bil’in. Together they attack IDF soldiers guarding construction of the separation barrier adjacent to Bil’in village.”
That's because the village is illegal (resides in occupied territory) and the wall that defends it cuts further into Palestinian territory. The demonstrators are fully entitled to resist such blatant and cynical acts of aggressions and land theft.
Israel has admitted that they killed this woman. Perhaps it's time you got with the program THEANTICLAUS/
Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.
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