A couple of weeks ago, Americans were treated to a remarkably clear demonstration of the power of the Israel lobby in the United States. First, Barack Obama gave a speech on Middle East policy at the State Department, which tried to position America as a supporter of the Arab spring and reiterated his belief that a two-state solution is the best way to resolve the Israel-Palestinian conflict. The next day, he met with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, who rejected several of Obama's assertions and lectured him about what "Israel expects" from its great power patron. Then Obama felt it was smart politics to go to AIPAC and clarify his remarks. It was a pretty good speech, but Obama didn't offer any ideas for how his vision of Middle East peace might be realized and he certainly never suggested that -- horrors! -- the United States might use its considerable leverage to push both sides to an agreement. And then Netanyahu received a hero's welcome up on Capitol Hill, getting twenty-nine standing ovations for a defiant speech that made it clear that the only "two-state" solution he's willing to contemplate is one where the Palestinians live in disconnected Bantustans under near-total Israeli control.

Not surprisingly, this display of the lobby's influence made plenty of people uncomfortable, and some of them -- such as M.J. Rosenberg at Media Matters offered up some personal tales of their own run-ins with Israel's hardline backers. In response to Rosenberg's sally (and the hoopla surrounding the Netanyahu visit), Jonathan Chait of The New Republic has fallen back on a familiar line of defense. After conceding that there is a lobby and that it does have a lot of influence, he argued that "the most important basis of American support for Israel is not the lobby but the public's overwhelming sympathy for Israel." In other words, AIPAC et al don't really matter that much, and all those standing ovations on Capitol Hill were really just a genuine reflection of public opinion. He also said that John Mearsheimer and I believe the lobby exerts "total control" over U.S. foreign policy, and that we claim groups in the lobby were solely responsible for the invasion of Iraq.

To deal with the last claim first, this straw-man depiction of our argument merely confirms once again that Chait has not in fact read our book. I don't find that surprising, because a careful reading of the book would reveal to him that we weren't anti-Israel or anti-Semitic, had made none of the claims he accuses us of, and had in fact amassed considerable evidence to support the far more nuanced arguments that we did advance. And then he'd have to ponder the fact that virtually everything The New Republic has ever published about us was bogus. So I can easily see why he prefers to repeat the same falsehoods and leave it at that.

But what of his more basic claim that the "special relationship" between the United States and Israel is really a reflection of "the public's overwhelming sympathy?" There are at least three big problems with this assertion.

First, even if it were true that the public had "overwhelming sympathy" for Israel, it does not immediately follow that United States policy would necessarily follow suit. U.S. officials frequently do things that a majority of Americans oppose, if they believe that doing so is in the U.S. interest. A majority of Americans oppose fighting on in Afghanistan, for example, yet the Obama administration chose to escalate that war instead. Similarly, numerous polls show that the American people favor the "public option" in health care, but that's not exactly the policy that health care reform produced. Public opinion is an important factor, of course, but what public officials decide to do almost always reflects a more complex weighting of political factors (including the intensity of public preferences, broader strategic considerations, the weight of organized interests, etc.)

Second, to the extent that the American public does have a favorable image of Israel -- and there's no question that it does -- that is at least partly due to the lobby's own efforts to shape public discourse and stifle negative commentary. The lobby doesn't "control the media," but "pro-Israel" groups like the ADL and CAMERA work actively to influence how Israel is portrayed in the United States, aided by reliably supportive publications like The New Republic. (As its former editor-in-chief Marty Peretz once admitted, "there's a sort of party line on Israel" at the journal). That's their privilege, of course, but groups and individuals in the lobby have also tried to silence or smear virtually any one who criticizes the "special relationship," and all-too-often those efforts succeed (if perhaps less frequently than they used to). If Americans were exposed to a more open discourse -- such as the discourse that prevails in Europe or in Israel itself -- Israel's favorable image would almost certainly decrease (though by no means disappear).

Third, and most important, the evidence suggests that the American people are not in favor of a one-sided "special relationship" where Israel gets unconditional American backing no matter what it does. Although there is no question that Americans have a generally favorable image of Israel and want the United States to help it survive and prosper, they are not demanding that U.S. politicians back it to the hilt or show the kind of craven adulation that Congress displayed last week.

For starters, many Americans recognize that one-sided support for Israel is a problem for the United States, and that figure is even higher among "opinion leaders." A Pew survey in November 2005 found that 39 percent of Americans saw the special relationship as a "major source of global discontent," and 78 percent of the news media, 72 percent of military leaders and 69 percent of foreign affairs specialists believed that backing Israel seriously damages America's image around the world. A 2003 survey by the University of Maryland reported that over 60 percent of Americans would be willing to withhold aid to Israel if it resisted pressure to settle the conflict with the Palestinians, and 73 percent said the United States should not favor either side. In fact, a survey conducted by the Anti-Defamation League in 2005 found that 78 percent of Americans believed that Washington should favor neither Israel nor the Palestinians. A 2010 survey by the Brookings Institution found similar results: although 25 percent of Americans thought the United States should "lean toward Israel" in its efforts to resolve the conflict, a healthy 67 percent believed the United States should "lean toward neither side."

Needless to say, such figures are hard to square with the robotic enthusiasm displayed by Congress, or with the Obama administration's timid approach to entire problem. But the behavior of both the executive and legislative branches are entirely consistent with the normal workings of interest group politics in the United States. In a democracy where freedom of association and speech are guaranteed, and where elections are expensive to run and where campaign contributions are weakly regulated, even relatively small groups can exercise considerable influence if they are strongly committed to a particular issue and the rest of the population does not care that much.

Whether the issue is farm subsidies or foreign policy, in short, special interest groups often wield disproportionate political power. Because countervailing forces are much weaker (as is the case when it comes to Middle East policy), groups like AIPAC and others have the field to themselves. Consider that in the 2010 election, "pro-Israel" PACs gave about $3 million to candidates from both parties. By comparison, Arab-American PACs gave less than $50,000. You can buy a lot of applause when the balance is stacked that way.

When you combine these facts with the sometimes thuggish tactics used against people who don't subscribe to the party line on this issue, you have a situation where politicians and appointed officials will bend over backwards to support the special relationship (or just remain silent), even when they know it's not good for the United States or Israel and when most Americans (including plenty of American Jews) would support a more normal relationship. In short, a relationship that would be healthier for the United States and Israel alike.

And the saddest part, as I've noted repeatedly, is that some people who care deeply about Israel and who see themselves as loyal defenders are the ones who are enabling its own self-defeating intransigence and threatening its future. Chait is a smart and well-informed guy, and his views on many subjects are thoughtful and nuanced. Which makes his failure to face the facts on this issue all the more surprising ... and regrettable.

MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images

 

PJW5552

9:46 PM ET

June 3, 2011

Facts don't matter in politics

In my long life, I've learned that facts are often irrelevant in politics. Instead, political pundits and special interests more often rely on emotion and fear mongering to facilitate their objectives. It isn't about making sound and rational choices, but about tipping the political scales toward what one wants and believes. The whole process is driven by a myopic view of the world that often leads to poor choices and illogical actions, but so long as those who want something get it, they view it as a win.

Netanyahu is an extreme practitioner of emotion and fear mongering. Why bother with addressing the issues and concerns about peace when your supporters have lost all interest in seeing the broader perspective of issues anyway. For these people, all you need to do is express a narrow a view of the world and events in it that fits with their limited ability to understand anything but their own perspective. Tell them what they want to feel, not what they need to know. That's how politics works today. Truth lacks the emotional connection relative to what "sounds good" and truth has a way of getting in the way when it conflicts what what you "want to believe".

 

BKAPLOVITZ

2:19 AM ET

June 4, 2011

Obama’s ‘1967’ Comments Prompt Social Media Backlash

From Commentary Magazine's "Contentions" Weblog
May 31, 2011

Obama’s ‘1967’ Comments Prompt Social Media Backlash

By Alana Goodman

In case there was any remaining doubt that President Obama’s statements on the 1967 lines were out of step with the American people, the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellent in Journalism found that an overwhelming percentage of social media users sided with Israel on the issue:

By almost a 3-to-1 margin, bloggers and users of Twitter and Facebook expressed strong support for Israel over the Palestinians in the week following President Obama’s May 19 address on the Middle East, according to an analysis of social media conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism. Many of those expressing support also took President Obama to task for suggesting that peace in the region would best be achieved by creating a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders.

The survey found that 60 percent of the Twitter/Facebook conversations about the president’s speech were pro-Israel. Twenty percent were pro-Palestinian, and 20 percent were “neutral” (i.e. giving a news update with no opinion attached).

According to the PEJ, these findings were unusual. With other contentious political topics the group has studied – such as the Ground Zero mosque and the 2010 election – opinions were more evenly divided.

But the survey results do correspond with the latest Gallup opinion polling, which has found that 63 percent of Americans sympathize more with Israelis, and 17 percent sympathize more with the Palestinians.

The PEJ numbers may also have some political implications for Obama. They indicate that politically-aware social media users – a prime demographic for the president’s 2012 reelection campaign – overwhelmingly side with Israel. And according to PEJ, these Israel supporters were very critical of Obama’s position on the 1967 borders:

Social media users who sided with Israel criticized Obama for not backing the U.S. ally strongly enough and consequently not upholding American values. Many used phrases suggesting Obama had “thrown Israel under the bus” or “stabbed Israel in the back.”

This is something the president may want to keep in mind next time he’s tempted to snub America’s closest ally.

--Posted By By Alana Goodman 05.31.2011 - 10:23 AM

Copyright Commentary Magazine 1997-2011 All Rights Reserved

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/05/31/obama's-'1967'-comments-prompt-social-media-backlash/

 

MO C.

7:01 AM ET

June 4, 2011

I agree. Most Americans get

I agree. Most Americans get their news from the media who are totally pro-Israel. What many Americans don't understand is the cost of the US siding with Israel. It makes the US look hypocritical to the rest of the world, it causes hatred for the US in parts of the world who attack American interests and drag her into wars that cannot be won and cost a lot of money. At home these wars lead to the curtailing of liberties.
This one-sided friendship with Israel is the worst thing that happened to the US.

 

GAIUS BALTAR

8:34 PM ET

June 5, 2011

Commentary is part of The Lobby

So it has zero cred.

 

AHMEDWALID

11:00 PM ET

June 5, 2011

I am falastinian/Israeli Arab walt realy knows nothing of Israel

When Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer’s article on the Israeli lobby first appeared, it was rightly ridiculed for its shoddy scholarship. They were two prominent political scientists who knew nothing about the Middle East and had demonstrated their ignorance. Had they remained interested in their academic reputations, they would have pretended it was all a mistake, but their apparent conviction that Jews really are to blame for 9/11 and what they consider a disastrous war in Iraq would not let them give up their conspiracy theory. The fact that anti-Semites and others inclined to believe their nonsensical arguments treated them credibly, and gave them publicity, prompted a publisher to offer them a reported six-figure advance. It was no surprise then that two eggheads whose work would usually generate yawns from the public and feeble or non-existent advances from academic presses would take the money and build a book from the thin reeds in their article.

If someone didn’t know the pedigree of the authors, they would never believe it was written by academics because the book shows such profound ignorance of all aspects of Middle East history and politics. Apparently they didn’t get much help from anyone who might know more. In their acknowledgments they mention only one person who has written seriously on U.S.-Israel relations and he’s a frequent critic of Israel. Clearly they didn’t speak to anyone with any expertise in the subject of the book who might have differed with their preconceived notions. They mention eight Israelis whose work influenced them — six are post-Zionists. They mention sources, but did no interviews with members of the lobby or those influenced by it.

The book doesn’t retreat from the positions shown to be false in their original article; rather it is padded by futile attempts to respond to their critics and a blizzard of more than 100 pages of footnotes that shows more desperation than serious research. This document dump actually further erodes their credibility as they cite books and articles as though they just looked at indexes by subject but didn’t actually read any of them; in fact, it’s dubious they could have consumed the amount of research they cite in the year since their article was published and because they did not incorporate any of the information from many of those sources that would have disproved their thesis. W/M made clear that facts do not matter to them. In response to criticism of their failure to conduct interviews in their initial article and reliance on secondary sources, and the suggestion that they should have done more research, they said, “these additional steps would not have altered our conclusions” (“Setting the Record Straight: A Response to Critics of ‘The Israeli Lobby,’ December 12, 2006, p. 26). They would have been wise to heed Mark Twain’s admonition, “Get your facts first, and then you can distort ‘em as much as you please.”

But let’s be candid. This book has no scholarly pretenses, it’s a work of polemics that not only earned them a hefty advance but guaranteed celebrity speaking fees from every anti-Israel group around the world (it’s no surprise the U.K., home of the anti-Israel boycott, would be one of their first foreign stops to promote the book).

From an academic perspective, one would have expected two professors associated with studies of the balance of power to have some passing knowledge of the notion of a balance of lobbying power, but they are clearly unfamiliar with the literature on interest groups in general, and of the research on the Israeli and Arab lobbies in particular. Had they read my book, for example, they would have seen extensive documentation for when, where, how and why the pro-Israel lobby exercises influence. Actually, they cite my work, but, if they read it, they chose to ignore all of the data that disproves their hypothesis.

Currency in the academic world is publication in peer reviewed journals and university presses, so the first question raised about W/M’s work was why they went outside the academic channel. One answer is that it could never have passed muster if reviewed by scholars in the field. After their original article was lambasted, they admitted making a “small number of minor factual errors” but asserted that they could not be accused of shoddy research because they were tenured professors and other work of theirs had been subject to peer review (“Setting the Record Straight,” p. 1). Unfortunately for W/M, tenure does not offer immunity from scrutiny, or a stamp of approval for work outside their fields that was not reviewed by knowledgeable experts.

Moreover, their willingness to speak at forums sponsored by anti-Israel organizations only fuels the suspicions about their motives. Like Jimmy Carter, they piously and hypocritically proclaim their objective is to promote discussion of the issues they raise while avoiding debates with experts in the field. At the one panel where Mearsheimer appeared with a group of Middle East experts, his case was completely torn apart by Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk and Shlomo Ben-Ami. The book has also been almost universally panned and was derisively reviewed in publications such as Foreign Affairs, the New York Times, The New Republic and The New Yorker.
Same Old Arabist Line

One of the indications of the authors’ animus toward Israel is the time they devote to historical events that have little or nothing to do with the lobby. Since they know nothing about the subject, and apparently made no effort to do what scholars normally do, original research, they simply regurgitate canards from a rogues gallery of Israeli new historians and anti-Israel academics, such as Ilan Pappe and Avi Shlaim. Not surprisingly, they get the facts consistently wrong.

They spend time, for example discussing the issue of the Palestinian refugees. In their original paper they used the work of Israeli historian Benny Morris to argue the refugees were a product of Israel’s desire to transfer the population. It’s the standard Palestinian narrative. After the article came out, however, Morris launched a blistering attack on how they had misrepresented his work. Undeterred, they repeat the same canards in the book and parrot post-Zionist claptrap about the Zionist leaders not really being interested in partition and conspiring to transfer the Palestinians out of their homes.

It is particularly shocking that two academics associated with the “realist” school have such a naïve understanding of the fundamentals of U.S. Middle East policy. They ignore the principal U.S. interest in the region, namely oil. Without oil, Americans would not care at all about Arabs. Since this is the most vital U.S. interest in the Middle East, the hypothesis that the lobby is harming American security ought to show that policy toward Israel has somehow affected the flow of oil. With the exception of the embargo in the 1970s, however, no such evidence exists and, even then, OPEC’s action was a matter more of self-interest than fealty to the Palestinians. It may have also escaped the authors’ notice that despite their alleged love of the Palestinians and dislike for U.S. policy, the oil producers have not imposed any other embargoes.

It is another glaring fault in their analysis that W/M give so little attention to America’s economic interests. Assuring the supply of oil is not the only interest; however, the United States also wants to prevent Middle Eastern states from getting weapons of mass destruction and spreading terror.

One of the many straw men W/M construct is to suggest that the U.S. has no strategic interest in Israel. No one claims otherwise. Israel does share strategic interests with the United States, however, such as the desire to contain radicalism and prevent the spread of WMDs.

As realists, perhaps they don’t like the fact that America also has interests in freedom and democracy in the Middle East and Israel is the only country in the region where those values are respected. In the book, they try to show that Israel does not share American values, but the imperfection of Israeli society hardly disqualifies it as a free, democratic society that most Americans recognize as far more like us than the Arab/Muslim states.

In addition to their general misunderstanding of U.S. policy, W/M butcher much of the region’s history. For example, they claim that U.S. support for Israel drove the Arabs into the Soviet orbit. This assumes those states otherwise shared American interests and also ignores U.S. efforts to build alliances with many Arab states. In particular, the U.S. tried for years to lure Egypt into the Western camp, but Gamal Nasser had his own agenda to unify the Arab world behind his leadership. His initial turn to the Soviets had nothing to do with Israel, but was a consequence of the breakdown of negotiations over the building of the Aswan Dam and Nasser’s decision to seek Soviet arms and recognize Communist China.

Similarly, W/M blame U.S. support for Israel for the broader antipathy of the Arab world toward the United States. Again, this ignores the fact that the Arabs and Muslims in the region have different values and interests unrelated to Israel. Some object to what they view as Western decadence and the corrosive influence it has on their societies. Others object to the American military presence in the region. If Israel disappeared tomorrow, the people who now despise the United States would not change their views.

W/M also push the nearly 70-year-old State Department Arabist line that if the United States has good relations with Israel it damages ties with the Arabs. The only problem with this view is that the empirical evidence shows precisely the opposite. If you were to draw a graph of the relationship between the United States and Israel, and the United States and the Arab states, the lines would move in tandem with relations growing stronger over time with each.

Elsewhere, the authors contradict themselves when they argue the U.S. backed Israel no matter what in the Cold War but also say the U.S. was not supportive of Israel in the 1950s and only gave limited support in the 1960s. They also ignore America’s policy throughout the 1960s of balancing the sale of arms to Israel with transfers of weapons to the Arabs.

Slightly less controversial is the claim that Israel missed a chance for peace with Egypt in 1971-72. Proponents of this view do extend beyond W/M’s principal post-Zionist sources, but all of them ignore what Anwar Sadat actually said at the time, which was that he was only prepared to reach an agreement with Israel if all the disputed territories were returned by the Israelis. No progress toward peace was made, however, so, the following year, Sadat said war was inevitable and he was prepared to sacrifice one million soldiers in the showdown with Israel. Throughout 1972, and for much of 1973, Sadat threatened war unless the United States forced Israel to accept his interpretation of Resolution 242 — total Israeli withdrawal from territories taken in 1967. As I argued in my book, Will Israel Survive?, Sadat also was unprepared to make peace until he could erase the humiliation suffered by Egypt in the Six Day War. W/M don’t acknowledge or understand the psychological dimensions of the conflict so they pretend they don’t exist.
Misunderstanding the Lobby

The book is based on the faulty premise that the Israel lobby’s goal is to help Israel rather than strengthen the relations between the U.S. and Israel. Their definition of the lobby seems to shift throughout the book. Any U.S. policy they disagree with requires a scapegoat and if they see the neocons as responsible, then they are the lobby; if the Israeli government weighed in, then it is the lobby; and, if AIPAC was involved, then that group is “the lobby.” The authors’ definition of the lobby seems to incorporate anybody who says anything positive about Israel or disagrees with them. They also conflate statements by Israeli leaders, some of whom are not even in power (e.g., Benjamin Netanyahu), neocons and the lobby. By definition, the lobby must have influence because people they define as part of the lobby make every decision they oppose.

W/M also equate any expression of opinion with power, and if the policy is consistent with those views, they assert a causal effect. For example, some Israeli leaders and neoconservatives supported democratization in the Middle East, Bush adopted this view, therefore, they conclude the lobby influenced policy. It doesn’t necessarily follow, however, that the lobby influenced the decision. They completely discount that Bush may have had an independent opinion, or that advisors such as Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld or Condoleezza Rice, who are not part of the lobby, may have influenced him.

One tactic used throughout the book is to make statements with anti-Semitic undertones, or suggest conspiracies, and then, like Jimmy Carter tried in his book, they say they don’t mean all Jews, or they’re not really suggesting there’s a conspiracy, it just looks like one. For example, they raise the issue of dual loyalty, that is, American Jews being divided in their allegiance toward Israel and the United States, but then say they don’t believe it. The recurrent theme of the book, nonetheless, is to blame the Jews for all the deficiencies they see in U.S. Middle East policy and that is why some critics have labeled the authors anti-Semites. While that case can be made, it distracts from the more important point that whatever their motivations, the substance of their arguments ranges from debatable to laughable to fallacious.

Another tactic W/M use to mislead readers is to frequently mention that the State Department and/or the CIA oppose a particular policy favoring Israel. Usually, they do not cite any specific critics from those agencies and only refer to them when they believe the organizations support their position. They also refer to these agencies as though they are disinterested parties when, in fact, employees in both organizations are associated with the Arab lobby.

For all the footnotes devoted to interest groups, it is clear W/M have no understanding of interest group behavior. They assert, for example, that no other lobby skews the national interest, but what about the China, Turkish, Armenian, Indian, Greek, Irish or Cuban lobbies? Do they better represent the U.S. interest?

While they suggest the lobby is omnipotent, they never make clear connections between the lobby and policy decisions. The one area where the lobby has demonstrably had some influence is foreign aid, but W/M do not show how encouraging Congress to provide assistance to Israel has undermined any U.S. interest.

I found it amusing that the authors selectively quote from my work when it suits them but ignore an entire book’s worth of evidence I produced that disproves their thesis. They spend a long time, for example on the lobby’s influence on Congress and conclude it has an “almost unchallenged hold on Congress.” As evidence, they mention letters written in support of Israel by members, but they ignore actual policy and the fact that letters reflect more of the lobby’s weakness than its power. If the lobby controlled Congress, it would be able to get binding legislation adopted that said what was in those letters. Letters are an easy way for members to win points with the lobby without having to vote and get into a fight they would undoubtedly lose with the president.

When W/M begin to talk more specifically about AIPAC, they clearly have done no original research and appear to rely heavily on JJ Goldberg’s book Jewish Power, which also lacked interviews with the lobby principals, and wrongly attributed undue influence to the umbrella organization of Jewish community relations councils. W/M repeat the charge made by many frustrated Jews on the left that the lobby has moved rightward and that right-wing Israelis have exercised undue influence on American Jewish organizations. They are unaware of the fact that Israelis on the left were the first to come to the United States and break with the tradition of eschewing criticism of the government while abroad. Once that taboo was violated, Israelis on the right followed suit. Neither has had particular influence on policy as the lobby tends to follow the policies of the government in Israel, whether it is right or left.

The authors argue that AIPAC didn’t support the Oslo accords. In fact, the organization did support it, though with not as much enthusiasm as some people would have preferred. The truth was the Oslo process was controversial within Israel and the American pro-Israel community and the doubters were ultimately proven correct.

They also make a number of inaccurate statements about AIPAC. They claim the group was behind the Jerusalem embassy act, which they assert was meant to disrupt the peace process. Actually, the legislation originated in Congress in an effort to show support for the unity of Jerusalem and correct the anomaly of Jerusalem being the only world capital not recognized by the U.S. government. They also incorrectly claim that AIPAC’s director, Tom Dine, was replaced because he wasn’t sufficiently hawkish. Dine’s demise was actually a result of an indiscreet remark he made about Orthodox Jews and the view that he had become too visible for an organization whose directors preferred a low-profile staff. Finally, W/M misrepresent the AIPAC board as being an unrepresentative plutocracy based on contributions to the organization. Contributions alone do not determine membership on the board, however, and there is nothing unusual about a nonprofit board being comprised largely of major donors.

Not surprisingly, W/M applaud minor left-wing groups that aren’t representative at all of Jewish opinion. Though they present no evidence, they assert that Jews don’t support mainstream groups. The authors ignore the basic attributes that make any interest group powerful: a large and vocal membership; members who enjoy high status and legitimacy; a high degree of electoral participation (voting and financing); effective leadership; a high degree of access to decision-makers and public support. AIPAC is influential because it has these characteristic; its adversaries are largely ineffectual because they either lack or are at a disadvantage in each of these areas.

Jews in the administration have no chance with W/M. Even if an administration, such as Clinton’s, has many liberal Jews involved in policymaking, or Jews whose views were not always consistent with those of the lobby, they are dismissed if the policy outcomes are not to the authors’ liking. They intimate, for example, that former U.S. ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk and chief State Department peace negotiator Dennis Ross were more influenced by sympathy for Israel than U.S. interests. You won’t convince too many Israelis or Jews on the right of that idea given that both were attacked for what some Jews believed were their unsympathetic views. In fact, if you look at the opinions they espoused prior to entering the government it is clear the State Department influenced them more than the other way around. And, incidentally, this is not unusual given that public servants are expected to toe the administration line.

W/M also make statements that are impossible to prove. For example, they claim that if there were no lobby, the administration would have forced Israel to change its behavior to “suit America’s interest.” Besides the fact that they can’t prove a negative, they also assume the administration agrees with their view of the national interest and that Congress has no say in the matter.
Attacking Christian Zionists

W/M display a disdain for the millions of Christians who identify themselves as Zionists or are otherwise sympathetic toward Israel. They discuss the organization Christians United for Israel (CUFI), a self-styled Christian AIPAC, as if it is a longstanding organization rather than a group that started the same year their book was published, and suggest the two lobbies have close ties because CUFI’s director, John Hagee, was invited to speak at AIPAC’s annual conference. The authors imply Christian supporters of Israel are all right-wing zealots who back the settler movement and aim to sabotage peace efforts. They also attribute this “junior partner” in their version of the lobby with influence on policy without providing any evidence they have made any difference whatsoever. In fact, as they often do throughout the book, they contradict themselves. At one point they claim Christians have played a role in the growth of settlers and the U.S. government’s unwillingness to pressure Israel to rein in settlements. Two paragraphs later, however, they say the influence of Christian Zionists “should not be overstated” and that they did not stop either President Bill Clinton or George W. Bush from pursuing policies the Christians disagreed with (e.g., Bush’s support for the establishment of a Palestinian state).

W/M also say the Israeli government encouraged Christians to visit Israel to boost tourist income and solidify evangelical support for Israel as if this is some nefarious activity. Imagine a government encouraging foreigners with an interest in their country to come and visit with the hope they will return to their homes with a positive view of the experience. Shocking! This is the type of conspiratorial claptrap weaved throughout the book, which, in this case, ignores the fact that Christians want to make the pilgrimage to the Holy Land without any enticement from the Israeli government. During the Palestinian War (2000-2005) it was Christians who continued to tour Israel because of their deep attachment to the birthplace of Jesus even as many Jews stayed away.

In fact, pro-Israel Christian groups are controversial within the Jewish community. Some people feel very uncomfortable with their views on Israel, and even more troubled by their positions on other issues. AIPAC and other more politically savvy members of “the lobby” view Christians as valuable allies and realize that a constituency of 6 million is likely to be more powerful if it has another 50 million people on their side. Still, there is little evidence to date that Christian supporters of Israel have influenced any policies in Israel’s favor.
The Arab Lobby

As is the case throughout the book, W/M ignore the Arab lobby entirely and its far older connections with Christian organizations. Decades before CUFI existed, groups such as the World Council of Churches and the American Friends Service Committee (Quakers), were criticizing Israeli policies and expressing solidarity with the Arab states and the Palestinians. Many Christian groups remain at the forefront of anti-Israel activities, and denominations such as the Presbyterians have launched divestment campaigns to tar Israel as an apartheid state and undermine the U.S.-Israel relationship.

W/M simply assert there is no evidence the Arab lobby influences policy, but they don’t ever define that lobby or discuss its elements. They claim oil companies have not exerted influence and conclude their case is proven. Oil company executives, however, were very active in supporting Arab interests up through the 1980s and have only recently become less involved in Middle East politics. But what about diplomats and former diplomats (such as some of the members of the Iraq study group whose views they like) who devote their energies to promoting U.S-Arab relations? They suggest that if there was an influential Arab lobby it would try to distance the United States from Israel, but this is precisely what those diplomats do. It is also the goal of many of the Arab-American and Muslim organizations.

They also believe a lobby would work for the creation of a Palestinian state. Why? This again shows their ignorance of the region and the unwillingness of the Arab states to do little more than offer verbal support for the Palestinian cause. Since the Arab states have no great love for the Palestinians, the Arab lobby makes minimal efforts to support them. It is a testament to the lobby, however, that they get any support whatsoever given that Palestinians comprise only 0.42 percent of the U.S. population and Palestinians make up only 6 percent of the Arab Americans (about 70,000 people). W/M believe the U.S. government should support the Palestinian cause, but, in addition to having virtually no constituency, they also have no popular support. According to the Gallup polls dating to 1967, the average sympathy for the Arabs is 12 percent. Since the Oslo agreements in 1993, Gallup started asking Americans if they sympathize more with Israel or the Palestinians and the results have not been much different, with the average for the Palestinians a paltry 14 percent compared to 48 percent for Israel in the same surveys. The data indicates very clearly that, contrary to their claims, U.S. policy reflects the wishes of the people and it is W/M and their fellow travelers whose views are out of sync.

W/M also ignore the possibility that Arab Americans may not support the Palestinians or may have their own agenda independent of the Israeli lobby. For W/M, however, even the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon is part of the Israeli lobby because it called for Syria to end its occupation of Lebanon, to get rid of its WMD and stop supporting terror. The writers do not acknowledge that Lebanese Americans have their own independent lobby to represent the interests of the majority of Lebanese who oppose Syrian intervention in their affairs. They would probably also be interested to know that most of these Lebanese also do not support the Palestinians, and the reason has nothing to do with the lobby and everything to do with their own unpleasant experience with the Palestinians who tried to take over their country and brutalized their people. If they knew anything about the history of the region, of course, W/M would have been aware of this.

W/M apparently don’t see any actors outside the Israel lobby as relevant to Middle East affairs. The Arabs, Russians, Chinese, Europeans, and UN have no influence; it is only the Israelis and their supporters who affect U.S. policy. According to W/M, whatever Israel tells the U.S. to do, it does – except when it doesn’t.
McCarthyites

W/M insist the lobby doesn’t accept that the United States and Israel may have different interests. On the contrary, supporters of Israel understand quite well that the United States has multiple interests, such as maintaining good relations with Arab states and often arming them with weapons that directly threaten Israel. The authors argue that Jews put Israel’s interest above those of the U.S., but provide no evidence of lobby actions that undermined U.S. interests. It is true that the lobby may sometimes disagree with the president or other officials, but this is true of all lobbies and individual citizens as well. What they seem to say is if the lobby disagrees with a president, it is disloyal and acting contrary to American interests. Meanwhile, they defend critics of Bush or the Iraq war who have been accused of being unpatriotic. Why can’t the lobby express a different view on the national interest without it meaning their actions are always against it? As critics of the Iraq war, W/M wouldn’t admit that they are acting contrary to the national interest by opposing the president’s policies, although a case could be made that they are doing just that if the same logic they use to describe the actions of the Israeli lobby is applied to their own suggestions.

Ultimately W/M are forced to admit the Israeli lobby does what all lobbies do, but is more effective than most. So what’s the problem? They disagree with the lobby’s views. So what? That doesn’t make the lobby wrong and them right.
The Biased Media

It will certainly come as a shock to anyone in the pro-Israel community to learn from W/M that the lobby has influenced the media to be pro-Israel. They make the even more laughable comment that news reporters are more objective than editorial writers and therefore portray the region more accurately, that is, by routinely criticizing Israel.

The pro-Israel bias of the media is evident, they say, when you read columnists such as William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer. They are, therefore, part of the lobby as well. He laments that columnists don’t take the side of the Palestinians (even the rabidly anti-Israel Bob Novak isn’t sufficiently pro-Palestinian for their tastes) and can’t understand why someone like Thomas Friedman, who sometimes criticizes Israel, doesn’t echo their view that the U.S. should distance itself from Israel. So how do they explain why some of the most sophisticated political observers and journalists don’t agree with them? Are they on the take? Does the lobby have compromising pictures of them? It is simply inconceivable to these two ivory tower denizens that opinion elites understand the value of the U.S.-Israel relationship and that many actually know something about the subject they write about and therefore come to more informed judgments.
Neocon Bogeymen

One group of Jews particularly offend W/M. They see the neoconservatives as bogeymen who are everywhere exerting their nefarious influence. Interestingly, few of the neocons are part of the lobby or influential because of their views on Israel. Israel is only one concern of neocons and the overwhelming majority of Jews are still liberal Democrats and not neocons. According to W/M, however, Elliott Abrams is apparently all-powerful and is preventing Bush from pressuring Israel. This also assumes that Bush would otherwise want to pressure Israel and that the use of coercion would be in the U.S. interest. They also argue the balance of power is stacked against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, but the State Department has been driving Middle East policy since the situation in Iraq deteriorated. Moreover, one could argue that if Abrams is powerful, that is precisely the role he should have to offset the Arabist dominated State Department.

W/M also have a problem explaining how it is that U.S. Middle East policy took the directions that it did in the 50 odd years before neocons became influential in the administration of George W. Bush. In the pro-Israel administration of Bill Clinton, for example, neocons had no influence and the many Jews working for Clinton were typical liberal democrats. Why don’t W/M rail about the influence of Robert Reich or Sandy Berger who sat in the Clinton cabinet? Do they believe that they had no influence or were they advocating policies W/M agreed with? And why were neocons so ineffectual during Bush Sr.’s term?
Terror Because of Israel

The authors claim the U.S.-Israel relationship makes it harder to defeat terrorists and undermines America’s standing with its allies, but they don’t give any evidence for these sweeping assertions. In fact, not a single alliance has been weakened by U.S.-Israel relations, in part because even those “allies” hostile to Israel understand the special relationship America has with Israel. America’s relations outside the Middle East certainly are unaffected by policies toward Israel, so they really are only talking about Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf States, as they are the only “allies” that might care. And do they? Besides paying lip service to the Palestinian cause, or providing some meager financial support, they have not demonstrated any great love or concern for the Palestinians. They also have done little to demonstrate their value as allies to the United States. While W/M spend a great deal of time trying to disparage Israel’s value, they simply take for granted that these dictatorships have anything to offer the United States.

One of their major arguments is that Israel not only has nothing to contribute to the war on terror but that it actually is responsible for the hostility toward the United States. The most outrageous of all the charges in their book is that the U.S.-Israel relationship and Israeli policies contributed to the attacks on 9/11. They produce various quotations from bin Laden in which he mentions the Palestinians, but no one who was analyzing Middle East affairs prior to 9/11 talked about bin Laden in the context of the Palestinian issue. In fact, little was said about bin Laden. Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak put it best when he expressed the view prevalent even in the Arab world, “Osama bin Laden made his explosions and then started talking about the Palestinians. He never talked about them before” (Newsweek, October 29, 2001).

The attempt to link U.S. policy toward Israel to bin Laden and to argue that the terror war is a function of Israeli policy or U.S. support for Israel demonstrates a profound ignorance of the motivations of the terrorists and reflects the authors’ failure to appreciate the role of religion in Middle East affairs in general and terrorism in particular. If Israel disappeared tomorrow, al-Qaeda would still have the same agenda of reconstituting the Islamic empire and expanding the rule of Islam around the world. As a decadent country of infidels the United States would remain its enemy. Bin Laden, for example, has issued a document entitled, “The Nuclear Bomb of Islam,” which insists it is “the duty” of Muslims to acquire a nuclear bomb in order to use “as much force as possible to terrorize the enemies of God.”

Set aside the United States for a moment. If the cause of terror is related to Israel, how can W/M explain the terror directed against the pro-Arab nations of Europe? Why were Spain and Britain targeted? Why does MI5 report the growing radicalism of Muslims in the UK where there is no Israeli lobby and the British government has historically been far friendlier toward the Arabs than Israel? Why do countries such as the Netherlands see a threat of Islamic radicalism? W/M have nothing to say about this because it does not fit into their conspiracy theory.

W/M buy into the propaganda line that the Arab world is so concerned with “Palestine,” it affects their outlook toward the United States. Beyond platitudes, what evidence is there the rest of the Arab world cares about the Palestinians? No Arab state is prepared to fight for them and most are willing to contribute only a pittance in financial aid for their welfare. No country besides Jordan allows them to be citizens, and Jordan has increasingly placed restrictions on Palestinians. Kuwait expelled tens of thousands after the first Gulf War. “Palestine” has nothing to do with the price of oil, the threat posed by radical Islam or the dynamics of the Iraq war.

The authors assert that the U.S. and Israel don’t share the same goals in the war on terror, but they are wrong. Both are interested in fighting Islamic extremism and violence against civilians. Both have an interest in preventing the radicals’ effort to spread their influence in the region and to restore the caliphate. Most Arab states, by contrast, have little or no interest in the terror war beyond preventing radicals from threatening their autocratic regimes. They are happy to support terrorists directed at others. In April 2008, for example, the U.S. issued a report documenting Saudi Arabia as the leading source of funding for al-Qaeda and other Islamic extremists.
Israel Causes the Palestinian Problem

The authors believe the creation of a Palestinian state is the only way to end conflict. Once again they don’t bother trying to produce any evidence for this assertion. Will a Palestinian state satisfy Hamas and Islamic Jihad, which openly state their goal as the destruction of Israel? Will it satisfy Iran, whose leaders threaten to wipe Israel off the map, proclaim that Israel is a “stinking corpse, and say as long as Israel exists there will be no peace in the Middle East? A Palestinian state also would not resolve Syrian claims to the Golan Heights.

On a number of occasions W/M refer to Israel’s “brutal treatment” of the Palestinians without saying what they are referring to or placing the behavior of Israel into the broader context of the war Israel has been fighting against the Palestinian terrorists. They argue the U.S. should be more evenhanded or lean toward the Palestinians, but they offer no rationale for why this would be in the U.S. interest. Do the Palestinians share any interests or values with Americans?

They claim the U.S. favors Israel over the Palestinians. In what way? In their view it is because the U.S. doesn’t do what they want and pressure Israel to capitulate to Arab demands. But why shouldn’t the U.S. support Israel, which shares our values and interests rather than the PA which does not? And how can they say the U.S. does not support the Palestinians when Bush has explicitly endorsed a Palestinian state, provided millions of dollars in aid and laid out a clear route to peace and self-determination?

Like Jimmy Carter, W/M are hung up on settlements and say Israel is better off without them. Many Israelis believe this as well, but that doesn’t make it a fact. They also make no distinctions between settlements. A few scattered houses on a hill in the West Bank are much different than a thriving city with a population of 30,000. Israelis have different opinions, for example, about Hebron, Ma’aleh Adumim and Tekoa. And why is the lobby wrong to support the policy of the elected government of Israel on this subject? Why is it that the U.S. should decide what’s best for another democracy? Should the U.S. also dictate policy to the U.K., France and Germany? Would W/M consider some nefarious interest at work if those sovereign nations resisted U.S. pressure or views of their national interest?

There is also an argument that settlements are a stimulus to peace and that some are very good for Israel because they strengthen its geostrategic position. Given that U.S. policy after 1967 has recognized the indefensibility of the pre-67 borders, the incorporation of some communities is perfectly consistent with both U.S. and Israeli interests.

Another reason W/M are viewed by some critics as anti-Semites is that they tend to use the language of the most virulent Israel haters. For example, they frequently say Israel has a campaign to “colonize” the territories. What colonial power ever voluntarily withdrew from territory it conquered? Israel has withdrawn from 94 percent of the disputed areas and offered to withdraw from even more in exchange for peace and security. It was the Jews who waged an anti-colonial war against the British in the 1940s. “Colonialism means living by exploiting others,” Yehoshofat Harkabi has written. “But what could be further from colonialism than the idealism of city-dwelling Jews who strive to become farmers and laborers and to live by their own work?”

Like Carter, W/M are also apologists for terror. They say it is “not surprising” as if there is no alternative way for Palestinians to express their political aspiration than to blow up innocent Israelis. Why aren’t they surprised given that other people who have political disputes do not resort to violence when seeking redress of their grievances? In fact, Palestinian Christians don’t engage in terrorism so it is not simply a matter of their conditions. Moreover, if W/M are so interested in peace, why aren’t they advocating that Palestinians engage in non-violent protest? They say they are concerned with U.S. interests but express no concern for the American victims of terror. And while they criticize Israel’s response to terror, it would be instructive to hear what they think the U.S. or other democracies would do if, for example, their cities faced daily rocket barrages.

Rather than rely on the authoritative sources, such as President Clinton or his chief peace negotiator, Dennis Ross, W/M regurgitate the misrepresentations of Carter and others regarding the negotiations that took place in 2000 between Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Yasser Arafat and Clinton. Contrary to the facts laid out in Ross’s book, they maintain Israel was only prepared to give the Palestinians a disarmed and dismembered state. Ross documents, however, that the state the Palestinians were offered was contiguous. While it is true that Israel has no desire to see a heavily armed Palestinian military force on its border, it is also the case that Israel has been arming the Palestinians since 1993. Before this they didn’t have arms, so it is ironic for W/M to accuse Israel of trying to disarm the Palestinians. Furthermore, even the left in Israel, which has long supported the establishment of a Palestinian state, has consistently called for it to be demilitarized. They also conveniently ignore Arafat’s unwillingness to negotiate at Camp David, which led Clinton to blame Arafat for the failure to achieve a breakthrough.

Another myth they accept is the idea that the Palestinians are being asked to settle for only 22 percent of their homeland. The truth is exactly the reverse. Historic Palestine included not only Israel and the West Bank, but also all of modern Jordan. It is Israel, including the disputed territories, that is only 22% of Palestine. If Israel were to withdraw completely from the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it would possess only about 18%. And from Israel’s perspective, it is the Zionists who have made the real sacrifice by giving up 82% of the Land of Israel. In fact, by accepting the UN's partition resolution, they were prepared to accept only about 12% of historic Israel before the Arab states attacked and tried to destroy the nascent state of Israel.

The title of their chapter, “The Lobby Versus the Palestinians,” also captures their bias. The analysis is completely one-sided. The Palestinians are blameless for everything while Israel engages in all sorts of terrible activities for no apparent reason beyond some sort of inbred malevolence. The chapter also ignores the fact that the lobby supports a two-state solution, supported the withdrawal from Gaza and also supports efforts to resolve the conflict.

In yet another contradiction, W/M acknowledge that President George W. Bush was the first president to publicly support a Palestinian state, but fail to explain how that could happen if the lobby was omnipotent and opposed to such a policy. Another example is what he calls a “small victory” achieved when the Bush administration told Israel not to expel Arafat. If the lobby is so powerful, how was this victory achieved? In fact, the “lobby” never advocated expelling Arafat and the Israeli government was never committed to it.

It is remarkable to read the apologetics associated with Palestinian terrorism. W/M give the impression, for example, the assassination of members of Hamas were unprovoked attacks on innocents. They describe the Hamas mastermind as a paraplegic in a wheelchair as if Israel was targeting the disabled, ignoring Ahmed Yassin’s role in planning terrorist attacks that contributed to the deaths of nearly 1,000 Israelis (a blind sheik is sitting in a U.S. prison for his role in planning the first World Trade Center bombing). They claim his assassination was a “serious blow to America’s position in the Middle East.” What evidence can they produce for such an absurd claim? None.

The authors’ effort to defend terror becomes particularly embarrassing when they suggest that Israel falsely accused Arafat of supporting terrorism. This is not even a matter of doing research, it is a question of whether they were awake during the last 40 years and read a newspaper. Since Arafat’s death, still more documentation has been unearthed showing his involvement in a variety of incidents, including attacks on Americans. They argue that there was no clear evidence of Arafat’s connection to the effort to smuggle Iranian weapons into the territories aboard the Karine-A. Israel provided the documentation, however, and U.S. confirmation led the Bush Administration to support Arafat’s removal as president of the PA.

W/M are also critical of Israel’s effort to dismantle the terrorist infrastructure in the West Bank. They said Operation Defensive Shield in 2002 damaged America’s image in the Arab and Islamic world and undermined the war on terrorism. On the contrary, Israel’s operation showed that a determined military campaign could be successful against terrorism. Bush supported the operation and there was little protest from outside. When Arafat was isolated and began calling Arab leaders for help, no one answered.

Their discussion of the road map is also seriously flawed. W/M say, for example, that serious movement began when Arafat nominated Mahmoud Abbas as Prime Minister. This is nonsense. Abbas was actually given no authority and was quickly shown to be impotent. Even now that he is president and theoretically has full power, Abbas has made little progress toward meeting any of the obligations outlined in the road map.

They are also mistaken when they argue that Sharon opposed a Palestinian state and that was why he objected to the road map. Actually, it is a testament to the evolution in Israeli attitudes, and Sharon’s in particular, that he came around from vigorous opposition to support for a two-state solution. Sharon objected to the road map, as did many others, because it was a terrible plan that had little chance of success, a view that has been proven over the last several years. It is true that Israel has not enacted a complete settlement freeze, but Israel’s position from the outset was that it would act on settlements if and when the Palestinians satisfied their obligation to stop terror. This was a promise the Palestinians first made in 1988, and repeated in subsequent agreements, including the road map, but have never fulfilled.

According to W/M, the 2005 disengagement was a plot by Sharon to sabotage the establishment of a Palestinian state when, in fact, it gave the Palestinians the freedom they claimed to want and an opportunity to create a state, which they have subsequently squandered. They also say some Jewish groups supported disengagement, and others didn’t, so how did the lobby influence U.S. policy?

Equally ridiculous is the claim that Sharon was responsible for the Hamas victory in Palestinian elections. Israel did not want to allow Hamas to participate and it was the Bush Administration that pushed for their inclusion to give the vote a democratic veneer. Hamas won in large measure because of widespread anger at Fatah corruption and the outcome was not what anyone in the lobby wanted.

Once W/M finish with Sharon they move on to attacking Olmert’s policies, which they mischaracterize, and blame for the failure to advance the peace process. In their myopic conception of events, Palestinians play no role and, therefore, their irredentism and terror campaign are irrelevant.

They are also incorrect when they claim that President Bush reversed U.S. policy on Israeli withdrawal from the territories. What he did was make the U.S. position on Security Council Resolution 242 explicit by acknowledging that political and demographic realities would require a modification in the borders. This view is consistent with that of the American Ambassador to the UN, Arthur Goldberg, who was the key figure in drafting 242 in 1967.
Rewriting History

It would require a much longer article to correct all the misstatements and inaccuracies in the authors’ review of Middle East history, but I’ll mention a few of the more egregious ones.

It is hard to recognize the history of the 1948 war from the description of W/M. They claim the Arabs had no interest in trying to destroy Israel in 1948 (or ‘67 or ‘73 for that matter). They maintain the Jews had a decisive early advantage in numbers and dismiss the British-led and trained Jordan Legion as “small.” They also misrepresent the research of Israeli historian Benny Morris and try to portray Israeli policy toward the Palestinians as one of transfer and expulsion even after Morris rebutted their original article and said they distorted his work. They offer a variety of quotations accusing the Jews of ethnic cleansing, executions, massacres and rapes. Well-known incidents of innocents being killed exist, such as Deir Yassin, but the overall argument is exaggerated and inaccurate. Their claim that Israel “drove up to seven hundred thousand Palestinians into exile” is specious. Israel’s leaders, including David Ben-Gurion, always foresaw a large Palestinian minority and virtually all Palestinians (except those in a handful of villages that were forced out) had the opportunity to remain in their homes. Approximately 150,000 Palestinians did remain in Israel and were given full citizenship.

W/M see Eisenhower’s threats to withhold aid and take other punitive measures if Israel didn’t withdraw from the land it captured in the 1956 war as a great example of how the United States can wield a stick effectively against Israel. Of course they ignore how this short-sighted policy that required nothing of the Egyptians sowed the seeds of the ‘67 war.

W/M argue that in May 1967 Israel was sending the U.S. falsely alarmist reports, claim Israel forwarded misleading intelligence about Egyptian intentions and capabilities, and say Israel chose war over a peaceful resolution. It did not require any secret intelligence, however, to read Nasser’s public threats or to interpret the provocations when he demanded the withdrawal of UN forces from the Sinai, mobilized his forces, blockaded the Straits of Tiran and formed a unified command with the Syrians and Jordanians. Given the threats by Arab leaders to annihilate Israel, and the failure of President Johnson to organize a flotilla to break the blockade, it is not clear where they got the idea that a peaceful resolution was possible.

They are particularly impressed with the Arab League peace plan originally formulated by Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah in 2002 to divert attention from the Saudi hijackers’ role in 9/11. W/M say they offered to sign a peace treaty with Israel and saw their plan as a basis for negotiations. The plan offered little new beyond a vague promise of a new relationship if Israel met all the Arab demands, several of which were known to be nonstarters. The Saudis have never showed the slightest interest in negotiating on the basis of the plan, they don’t recognize Israel and refuse to engage in any direct talks. W/M falsely claim that Israel wasn’t willing to negotiate with the Saudis; Prime Minister Olmert’s offer to meet with the Saudis was rebuffed. Of course, W/M don’t bother to ask the more fundamental question of why the Saudis are at war in the first place with a country that occupies none of their territory.

The authors also give a distorted picture of U.S. votes at the United Nations by taking U.S. vetoes out of context. They cite the number of vetoes of resolutions pertaining to Israel and compare it to other countries, but they fail to point out that most UN resolutions are about Israel and that most were not vetoed. They also take as a given that these resolutions are fair and justified when successive administrations have decided otherwise. W/M also provide no evidence the lobby is responsible for any UN decisions. If it were up to the lobby, the U.S. would vote against every UN resolution, and yet that hasn’t happened. How can they explain that? They can’t so they ignore it and leave the impression that the U.S. unthinkingly supports Israel at the UN.
Devaluing An Asset

One of the staples of the pro-Israel lobby has been Israel’s strategic value; however, W/M go to great lengths to try to devalue that asset. As in other places, the case is made primarily with straw men. For example, they suggest that Israel was not much of an asset during the Cold War because it did nothing that “decisively altered the course of the superpower competition or enabled America to inflict a decisive blow against its communist adversary.” If that’s the standard for strategic value, however, then one could just as easily question NATO allies.

They also argue that Israel isn’t an asset because it didn’t help protect the Persian Gulf, but Israel was never expected to do so. It had the resources to help if asked, but the United States never called on Israel to project its power that way. Which country would the U.S. ask for help in the Middle East? Our erstwhile Arab allies are too weak to offer any meaningful assistance, and they do that only grudgingly if their survival is at stake. In the first Gulf War, the most pro-Western Arab state, Jordan, backed Saddam while our other ally, Egypt, sent only a token force. W/M might ask what U.S. aid has bought from them, but they don’t question our relations with those countries. They go so far as to suggest Israel was a liability because it couldn’t help in the 1991 war, but that was an assumption not a fact. President Bush made a choice to keep Israel out of the coalition, but there is little doubt Israeli participation would not have been the problem portrayed and may have assisted U.S.-led forces in a variety of missions, such as taking out the Scud missile launchers. Though no direct assistance was needed, Israel did provide indirect assistance, such as intelligence and a variety of weapons systems. Most of our closest European allies did little or nothing in the first Gulf war and, with exception of UK, were obstacles in 2003, but their strategic value isn’t questioned.

The authors portray the strategic relationship as one-sided and give no recognition to any Israeli contribution to U.S. intelligence, war fighting doctrine or technology and weaponry. Instead, they suggest Israel gets everything it wants from the United States, ignoring how the U.S. has refused to sell Israel many systems it wants and now dictates to Israel what it can export to third parties. Furthermore, W/M are silent with regard to the billions of dollars worth of arms sold to the Arabs and the implications for the national interest as well as Israel’s security.

After unsuccessfully attacking one pillar of the U.S.-Israel relationship, they wage an equally specious critique on the other, the shared values of the two nations. They say, for example, that Israel as a Jewish state is at odds with core U.S. values because there is no equality for non-Jews. They also cite a variety of Israeli opinion polls showing that some Israeli Jews have negative attitudes toward Israeli Arabs. On balance, however, few serious political scientists would question the democratic values and record of Israel. No one claims the society is perfect, or that in its first 60 years it has eliminated all traces of discrimination and bigotry, but all its citizens share the essential freedoms and rights Americans take for granted – freedom of speech, assembly, religion and press. In addition, Israel respects the rights of women, gays and minorities. None of these values are respected by the Palestinian Authority or the 21 Arab states.

In a particularly twisted interpretation, W/M maintain that Israel is undemocratic because it will not give the Palestinians a state. What does Palestinian statehood have to do with Israeli democracy? And on what basis do they conclude Israel is obligated to give the Palestinians anything? Are they unaware the Palestinians have had multiple opportunities for statehood, going back to 1937, which they have rejected? Even today, Israel does not deny them statehood and explicitly recognizes their right to independence. The principal obstacle remains the Palestinians’ own failure to stop the violence against Israel and negotiate a peace treaty that ends the conflict.

In one of their explicit attacks on Israel, the authors claim the Israelis “killed several foreign peace activists” and rarely investigates these incidents. Of course, the most celebrated “peace activist” to die, Rachel Corrie, was in a military zone where she did not belong and died in an accident that was indeed investigated. In truth, Israelis are very demanding when it comes to holding their government accountable. While the Arab world took the massacres in places such as Damour, Lebanon, and Hama, Syria, as routine, it was the Israeli public that insisted on an inquiry into the events at Sabra and Shatila. Like other detractors, W/M are only interested in innocents if Israelis can be blamed, but they have no concern for Arabs killed by Arabs or Jews killed by Arabs.

The esteemed scholars also repeat the usual propaganda about Israel showing no regard for civilians. This is an insult to the IDF’s doctrine of the purity of arms and to the memories of soldiers such as the 27 who died in the battle of Jenin when the IDF decided to fight hand-to-hand in the refugee camp to minimize the risk to innocents rather than bombing it as every other army in the world would have done.
Foreign Aid As Hammer

Paradoxically, W/M want to use foreign aid as a stick to coerce Israel to adopt their favored policies while at the same time attacking the justification and amount of aid Israel receives. Members of Congress understand, however, that aid to Israel is an investment in peace because it discourages Israel’s enemies from believing it can be defeated and gives Israelis confidence to take risks for peace. It is true that Israel is the largest recipient of aid, but economic assistance has just been phased out and Israel’s share of foreign assistance has dropped from about 25% to 10%.

W/M have a seriously flawed understanding of foreign aid allowances. They talk about per capita assistance as though the money goes directly to Israeli citizens, but then acknowledge that 75% of military aid is actually spent in the U.S. so that Americans benefit. They compare aid to Israel and Egypt, but don’t consider whether Egypt has any need for the aid. More significant is their failure to understand that it is the support of the Israeli lobby for foreign aid in general, and Egypt and Jordan in particular, that makes it possible for them to get the amounts of assistance they do from Congress. They actually turn the facts on their head and claim aid to Jordan and Egypt is an example of U.S. generosity to Israel! This is yet another refutation of their thesis that the lobby makes relations worse with the Arabs. W/M also lament that Israel receives aid that could better be spent on needier countries, but aid is so unpopular that it is unlikely the budget would be as big or as likely to pass without the lobby pushing Congress to support the overall aid package. The lobby, therefore, makes it possible for all those needy countries to receive assistance.
The Iraq War

The war with Iraq appears to be the catalyst for W/M to have written their original article. They are so upset by the war that they saw the need to attack those responsible for what many see as the Bush administration’s catastrophic policy. Their scapegoat is the Israeli lobby, but more specifically Jews and other neocons. In their analysis, government officials are incapable of any independent judgments. When asked about the notion that these malevolent forces were the “driving force behind the Iraq war,” former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told the New Yorker, “I suppose the implication of that is that the President and the Vice-President and myself and Colin Powell just fell off a turnip truck to take these jobs.” In fact, while Rumsfeld is generally viewed by opponents of the war as the man most responsible for what they consider a debacle, W/M reserve their contempt primarily for the Jews in the administration that were involved in formulating Iraq policy.

Of course, W/M also ignore many of the salient facts regarding the views of “the lobby.” First, no organization advocated going to war. AIPAC and others highlighted the threat posed by Saddam Hussein to Israel and American interests, but did not say a war was necessarily the answer. Israel also was not pressuring the U.S. to attack. To the contrary, despite W/M’s assertions, Israeli officials were arguing that Iran was the bigger threat. They even try to turn this against Israel by suggesting that Israel must not have been so concerned about Iran because it didn’t “undertake a significant effort to halt the march to war.” If the lobby had opposed the war, perhaps it would have been cheered by W/M, but why was it up to Israel to try to stop the U.S. from pursuing its own interests? Why weren’t other countries, such as the UK, responsible for halting the march to war? Furthermore, while some Israelis made statements that the world and Israel would be better off without Saddam, W/M say the Saudis and oil companies were against the war, so why would the administration pay more attention to the Israelis?

And how did the neocons they see responsible for the war convince all those Democrats in Congress that they should endorse the war? Their answer is that they manipulated intelligence. They quote a New York Times reporter claiming Israeli intelligence played a role in convincing Wolfowitz not to trust the CIA and, a paragraph later, they say the Bush administration received “alarmist” reports by an ad hoc intelligence group in Sharon’s office that bypassed the Mossad. Ok, let’s assume that is true. What about the British and the French intelligence services? Are the Israelis so convincing that everyone else was ignored? W/M already argued that the CIA and State Department don’t trust them. Like most opponents of the war, they simply ignore the fact that there was a pretty broad consensus among the major allies that Saddam was a threat and that he had WMD.

W/M also contend that the Israelis were behind Bush’s policy to democratize the Middle East. What evidence do they have for this? The Israelis know better than anyone that the prospects for democracy in Arab countries are bleak, and they were interested more in removing their enemy and enhancing their regional security than in a democratic postwar Iraq. To the extent the lobby had an interest in democratization, it was secondary to military-strategic-terror issues.

Another lobby position they stand on its head is the suggestion that Israel’s supporters advocate U.S. military involvement in the region to protect Israel. One of Israel and the lobby’s longstanding talking points, however, is that Israel can defend itself and has never asked Americans to protect them.

Once the United States made the decision to go to war with Iraq, there was no reason why the lobby should not have supported the government, as most Americans did initially. W/M claim the lobby didn’t represent Jews when it came to the war, but how do they come to this conclusion? Throughout the book, it is not clear when they believe the lobby represents the Jews and when it does not.

They are correct when they say the war in Iraq wasn’t about oil, but they are wrong when they contend that no American government has considered seizing the oil fields. In fact, Nixon considered it during the oil embargo.

It is interesting that W/M declare Iraq a failure. This is a remarkably shortsighted view for academics. We’re years from knowing the consequences of the war. The politicians may rush to judgment to win votes, but serious analysts cannot reach conclusions yet. In the short-term it is possible to list numerous achievements, such as ousting Saddam and ending the government’s support for terror both inside and outside the country. Iraqis also voted despite the danger they faced in an expression of their desire for democracy, even as W/M suggest it’s an impossible or unreasonable goal. They also say Israel wants the U.S. to stay in Iraq, but, again, Israel believes the focus needs to be on Iran. Israelis worry about a precipitous withdrawal, but even most Democrats understand that the policy W/M advocate would be potentially calamitous for the Iraqi people and America’s interests in the region.

They also misrepresent some of the implications of the war. For example, they insist Libya gave up its WMD in exchange for lifting sanctions. In fact, it was the Iraq war they so oppose that changed Libya’s position.

Another example of stunning stupidity is the idea that Iran and Syria are happy the U.S. is in Iraq. The last thing either wants is 150,000+ U.S. soldiers on their borders. Those two countries are even more eager than W/M to see American troops retreat to a safer distance. Equally absurd is their contention that creating a Palestinian state would improve the situation in Iraq, as if Sunnis and Shiites would suddenly stop killing each other because Mahmoud Abbas was recognized as president of Palestine.

Though they have demonstrated throughout the book they have no interest in Israel’s security, they shed crocodile tears for Israel in the aftermath of the war. They say Israel is considerably worse off to bolster their case the war was a failure. Here, too, their analysis is faulty and relies on quotations that support their argument and ignores any evidence Israel has benefitted from the demise of Saddam. Israel is much better off for now: The leader of the rejectionists is gone, suicide bombers are no longer receiving Iraqi subsidies, and Israelis are no longer threatened by WMDs from the one Arab country that fired missiles at them.
Innocent Iranians

The section on Iran is one of many where you scratch your head and wonder where W/M got their ideas. They say, for example, that Israel won’t take steps toward peace with the Arabs unless it feels secure from Iran, yet Israel did offer peace to the Palestinians, made peace with Jordan and Egypt, and all but signed a treaty with Syria without regard to Iran. Still, what is wrong with Israel being concerned about Iran? If W/M say the U.S. has an interest in peace, it must take into account Israel’s security concerns, but they want to impose their solution with no regard for Israeli security, which would undermine what they claim is their objective, namely, regional stability. If a peace is forced on Israel that leads to future war (as was the case when Eisenhower forced Israel’s withdrawal from Sinai in 56, which they applaud), the policy is counterproductive.

Another of their bizarre assertions is that the Israeli lobby is to blame for the United States not having diplomatic relations with Iran. Did they sleep through the 444 days Americans were held hostage? Are they unaware of the belligerence of Khomeini and his followers? Have they seen any of the “Death to America” rallies held in the last 30 years? What values or interests does the United States share at the moment with Iran? Up until the revelation that Iran was secretly trying to build nuclear weapons, the lobby paid little attention to Iran and was not trying to discourage relations with the United States. Even now, with the nuclear threat a clear and increasingly present danger, the lobby’s concern is not diplomatic ties with Iran, it is finding the best way to prevent Iran from acquiring the bomb.

They further descend into the nuthouse by repeating the ridiculous assertion that Iranian President Ahmedinejad’s remarks about Israel’s destruction were mistranslated. This was also the ludicrous position of the former president of the Middle East Studies Association, Michigan Professor Juan Cole, which was refuted by official Iranian news sources.

W/M say Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons because it feels threatened by the U.S. They’ve felt threatened by America for the last two decades? No, the Iranians felt threatened by Saddam’s desire for hegemony and their belief, along with everyone else, that he was building nuclear weapons. Having a bomb wouldn’t protect Iran from the United States anyway, at least until they develop a missile capable of reaching us. They also claim America is responsible for Iranian interference in Iraq as though Iran has no interests in shaping the future of Iraq.

The authors put their faith in deterring Iran, comparing the situation with the U.S. posture toward China and Russia. In typically realist fashion, they focus on the political/military/economic aspects of the problem and ignore religion and psychology. They are not worried about Islamism and the possibility that Iranian leaders may not fear mutual assured destruction because they believe they will reach Paradise or bring about the return of the missing imam or otherwise hasten the worldwide victory of Islam over the infidels.

W/M assert that Arab states won’t support American policy on Iran because of Israel. This is rubbish. The Arab states are scared to death of the Iranians and not the least bit worried about the Israelis. They will appease or confront the Iranians based on their calculation of the best way to preserve their regimes.

While they do acknowledge Arab concerns with the Iranian threat, they completely ignore European interests. Since Israel has already been threatened by Iran, and Iranian proxies wage daily war against Israel, it is not surprising the Israelis are worried, but why are the leaders of Germany, France, and Great Britain all leading the campaign to stop Iran from obtaining a bomb? Even W/M do not believe they are doing so out of concern for Israel’s well-being. The desire to prevent a nuclear Iran may be the one issue today that has perhaps the broadest international consensus.

What do the brilliant realists believe is the proper approach toward Iran? They believe Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons and then America should try to contain them. Paradoxically, they opposed the Clinton containment policy of non-nuclear Iran. They believe Iran can be stopped through diplomacy and normalizing relations. This ignores the last several years of history during which the Europeans have negotiated and offered Iran a variety of carrots and the Iranians used these talks to buy time to advance their weapons program. The authors imply U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran are an example of Bush’s misguided policies when the House and Senate unanimously approved the legislation during Clinton’s term. W/M say some administration officials hated the act and expect readers to agree the presence of opposition somehow makes the policy wrong.

In yet another contradiction, they say that Clinton was pursuing their desired policy of moving toward a dialogue with Iran, but W/M note that hardliners in Iran opposed Iran’s engagement with the “Great Satan.” Still, they blame the lobby for discouraging rapprochement, even as they show there was no chance of this occurring on the Iranian side during the last two administrations. They conclude that the best strategy is to renounce threats against Iran and compromise.

They clearly are worried the Jews are going to drag America into a war with Iran as they did with Iraq. They assert that Israel and various constituents of the lobby, especially the neocons, favor military action. No part of the lobby, however, has advocated going to war. On the contrary, the argument has been to take the necessary steps to prevent Iran from getting to the point where war is necessary. AIPAC, for example, has championed the idea of sanctions. Even those who are skeptical of nonmilitary approaches express reservations about the consequences of a military strike.
Apologists for Hezbollah

W/M spend an entire chapter ranting about Israel’s behavior in fighting Hezbollah in 2006 and are upset the U.S. didn’t criticize Israel, which it said killed 1,000 Lebanese (they don’t say it, but most were terrorists), and undermined the Lebanese government and ultimately brought Iran, Syria and Hezbollah closer. In their coverage of the war, Hezbollah did nothing to provoke Israel, the indiscriminate rocket barrage on Israeli cities was irrelevant and no Jews suffered whatsoever.

In fact, the Iran/Syria/Hezbollah axis existed before the fighting and didn’t get any stronger because of Israel’s actions. If anything it highlighted for the rest of the world this axis of evil and led to greater isolation of all three. Israel’s actions also didn’t undermine the Lebanese government, it is the Syrians who are bent on doing that, but W/M are either uninterested or unaware of the Syrian view of Lebanon as its southern province. In their view, Hezbollah’s actions were not unusually provocative, but they were actually acts of war.

The lobby is blamed for persuading the Bush Administration to support Israel, but the government and public understood that Israel’s response to Hezbollah’s actions was justified. The Congress voted 410-8 to support Israel, but W/M focused only on its rejection of language regarding protecting civilians and infrastructure.

The authors say Israel targeted civilians in Lebanon and they found “little evidence” that Hezbollah used civilians as shields. Plenty of evidence is available, however, including photographs and videotape, but they simply ignore the facts when they contradict their thesis. W/M also repeat the criticism that Israel’s response was “disproportionate,” relying on discredited reports by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, without giving any indication what a proportionate response would be to the indiscriminate missile attacks launched by Hezbollah against Israeli cities. They claim Israel caused catastrophic damage and suggest it wasn’t pinpointed as Israel claimed; however, the IDF could have easily taken out all of Lebanon’s power, water and electricity, but did not, focusing instead on targets designed to weaken Hezbollah.

They assert that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert saw the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers as an opportunity to implement a long planned campaign against Hezbollah, but the Winograd report has shown just the opposite, that there was no plan and too little thought was given to going to war.

As they do throughout the book, W/M claim most people share their views. They say, for example, that once the war began, Israel was heavily criticized around the globe when, in fact, Israel’s actions were initially widely supported as a justified response to Hezbollah’s aggressive actions and violation of Israeli sovereignty. It was not until the war appeared to be dragging on without a conclusive outcome, and the damage and casualties in Lebanon began to grow, that opinion started to turn against Israel.

Paradoxically, W/M say the mainstream media supported Israel. A paragraph later, however, they contradict themselves again by citing a study by Marvin Kalb at Harvard, which showed that Israel was heavily criticized on the front pages of the New York Times and Washington Post. In another example of their shoddy and selective research, they ignore the rest of the study in which Kalb eviscerated the media coverage and highlighted its anti-Israel bias. According to W/M, the negative coverage of Israel was unavoidable because of the amount of destruction Israel caused. Here the two academic political scientists pretend to know more about reporting than the professional journalist Kalb. They also defend a report by Washington Post reporter Thomas Ricks, who made perhaps the most outrageous charge of the war when he claimed that Israel intentionally left Hezbollah rocket launchers intact because having Israeli civilians killed helped Israel in the public relations war. That report was so indefensible the Post’s editor took the unusual step of repudiating his reporter and retracting the story, but perhaps the Post was cowed by the lobby.

One central thesis of their book is that the relationship with Israel hurts the American national interest and they reassert the position here by suggesting that U.S. support for Israel in Lebanon reinforced anti-Americanism. Actually, it did not because Hezbollah’s actions were seen as reckless and most of the Arab world blamed its leader for provoking Israel and bringing ruin to Lebanon.
Cooking the Books

The authors often grasp for data to support their case and present incomplete or misleading statistics. For example, they cite a poll showing that 40% of Americans believe support for Israel causes anti-Americanism, which a) does not mean that the supposition is true and b) indicates a majority does not agree. Had they written that 60% of Americans do not believe that U.S. support for Israel causes anti-Americanism it would have undermined their argument. Similarly, they say 39% (again, far less than a majority) believe the lobby was the reason we went to war in Iraq and want to confront Iran. In other words, the entire premise of their book, that debate is silenced, that Americans don’t support the lobby’s positions and that U.S. support for Israel is contrary to American interests, is contradicted by their own poll data which shows they are being given choices but majorities reject their distorted view of the world. And, incidentally, these were the best figures they could find for their case and they came from a poll conducted by the rabidly anti-Israel Council for the National Interest.

It is possible to cite far more reputable data that has consistently shown that a majority of Americans sympathize with Israel while a tiny minority support the Palestinians (the last Gallup poll in February 2007 showed Americans supported Israel over the Palestinians by 58%-20%) and an even larger majority view Israel as a reliable ally (75% in the 2006 Harris poll). Overall favorability ratings of Israel in the February 2008 Gallup poll were 71%, the highest since the record 79% rating during the first Gulf War. By contrast, just 14% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the Palestinian Authority, while 75% have an unfavorable view. The PA is rated just above North Korea (12%) and Iran (8%) as the least popular countries.

W/M can’t accept that the pro-Israel views of the general public, the media, elites, or public officials could be accurate portrayals of the national interest and that they are simply out of step or just plain wrong.
Syrian Fantasy

W/M make a number of absurd claims regarding Syria. For example, they maintain that Bush’s hostility toward Syria damaged the U.S. position in the region. First, Bush’s posture has nothing to do with the lobby. Israelis have been wanting to negotiate with the Syrians (and have had secret talks with them) and been reportedly held back by Bush. Second, none of America’s allies in the region have been disturbed by Bush’s policy toward Syria. On the contrary, Syria is isolated in the region because of its alliance with Iran and its interference in Lebanon. When Damascus recently hosted an Arab League summit, most of the major players boycotted the meeting. Even when the United States was accused of supporting Israel’s raid on Syria’s nuclear facility, none of the Arab states complained.

Their amateurish views are further reflected in their lack of knowledge of the history of U.S.-Syrian relations and the fact, for example, that the U.S. has had little contact with Syria for years. Bush has been more openly hostile, but this is justified by Syria’s escalation of anti-American activities during his term in Iraq and Lebanon. Furthermore, Bush undoubtedly resents that Syrian President Bashar Assad lied when he said he would close down the terrorist headquarters in Damascus and, instead, increased his support for terror groups.

It’s also clear they’re not too clever when it comes to military analysis. They argue that Syria poses no military danger to Israel, ignoring their WMD, their ongoing support for terror in general and Hezbollah in particular, and the ongoing threat to attack the Golan. They also say that Syria does not have a nuclear program and they see no reason to think it will pursue one anytime soon. Oops, got that wrong too as we now know Syria was working with North Korea on a nuclear program when Israel bombed their facility in September 2007. Even before the Israeli raid, knowledgeable analysts had raised the possibility that Syria was indeed interested in developing a nuclear weapon.

W/M apparently have no problem with terrorism, so long as it is directed at Israel. According to the authors, Syria doesn’t support global terror only terror against Israel. Would they feel the same if the terror was directed against other U.S. allies? They also ignore the fact that Syrian terror is also directed against Lebanon and that their Hezbollah proxies killed more Americans than any other terror group except for al-Qaeda on 9/11.

The authors say the U.S. counted on Syria to keep the peace in Lebanon and favored the Syrian occupation. It’s not clear where they get this wacky idea since successive administrations called for Syria’s withdrawal. Of course, W/M don’t care about the instability of Lebanon caused by Iran and Syria or the suffering of people there except when Israel is involved. They also ignore that Lebanon signed a peace treaty with Israel that Syria forced the government to annul.

Not surprisingly W/M blame Israel for failing to reach a peace agreement with Syria even though the Israelis offered the Syrians most of the Golan Heights in exchange for peace and, to this day, Assad refuses to say that he will make peace under any circumstances. They portray Syria as wanting peace talks and Israeli “intransigence” as the obstacle when Prime Minister Olmert explicitly called for talks. They mention secret meetings of Israelis and Syrians, but they interpret this as evidence only of Syria’s interest in peace. The Israelis were apparently there for show. In a typical contradiction, they say that holding the Golan is popular with the Israeli right, but then provide poll data showing overwhelming public opposition to giving it up. Since they do not acknowledge the Golan’s strategic value, it is not surprising that they would not understand the Israeli public’s attitude.

The apologetics continue when they suggest that Syria only supports terror groups because “they are the only levers it has to pressure Israel into returning Golan.” Oh really? They’ve tried that tactic now for more than 30 years and it hasn’t worked too well; maybe they should try another approach. Then again, Israel already has agreed to return the Golan so what’s the justification for continued terror?

W/M criticize the Syria Accountability Act, which they argue is another example of the lobby pushing Congress to adopt a measure that is contrary to their view of America’s interest. But why isn’t it in the U.S. interest to call on Syria to withdraw from Lebanon, give up WMD and stop supporting terror? In the end, they note that Bush largely ignored the legislation, so the lobby is so powerful it got a law adopted that has no impact. That’s their idea of power?

They suggest the lobby is really interested in regime change in Syria. On the contrary, Israel has not pushed for regime change in large measure because of fears the alternative could be worse than Assad.

According to W/M Syria is no threat to the U.S. “even taking into account its possible role in helping the Iraqi insurgency.” So even if they’re helping to kill Americans, they’re no concern to W/M. Of course, no one has argued that Syria poses a danger to the U.S. beyond the above-mentioned activities that undermine our regional interests.

W/M also maintain that unnamed “powerful groups in the lobby” are working to prevent U.S. cooperation with Syria. Here they suggest the lobby isn’t united, that parts of the lobby act independently and that they are more influential than the lobby as a whole. Their logic is convoluted and understanding of interest groups juvenile. Perhaps a few Arabists in the State Department believe the U.S. can or should cooperate with Syria, but no one else needs the lobby to tell them this is a bad idea.
Unbridled Silence

Like Jimmy Carter, W/M try to convince readers that the powerful and evil lobby is stifling debate about U.S. Middle East policy. I’m not sure how they do it with a straight face as they crisscross the United States and parts of Europe giving lectures and appear on nearly every media outlet from Stephen Colbert to NPR. They probably thought their book would be in every hotel room next to the bible or in airplane seatback pockets if not for the lobby’s malevolent influence. In yet another contradiction, after complaining vigorously about the censorship of Israel’s detractors, they acknowledge that attacks on Carter didn’t prevent him from widely publicizing his views.

Angry over the almost universal criticism they’ve received from academics who savaged their original article, W/M devote an entire chapter reinforcing the canard that the lobby is trying to silence professors. According to W/M it is unacceptable to challenge their views and it is untoward to support scholars who study Israel.

While they see nothing wrong with millions of dollars being spent by Arab governments to create chairs and centers to propagate distorted views of Islam and the Middle East, they are offended by the news that a Jewish philanthropist was considering a large donation to support Israel studies at Georgetown. Meanwhile, Georgetown accepted a $20 million gift from the Saudis to create a center for Christian-Muslim understanding (noticeably absent is Judaism).

They are also determined to defend some of the more indefensible characters. For example, they blame the lobby for Michigan professor Juan Cole failing to secure a teaching post at Yale. Cole is better known for his anti-Israel screeds (and claiming Ahmedinejad’s threats against Israel were mistranslated) than any of his academic work. W/M also neglect to mention that Cole was also reportedly rejected by Duke, an indication more of the quality of his scholarship than the conspiratorial activities of the lobby.

W/M also defend Columbia University, whose anti-Israel faculty became the subject of widespread scrutiny and criticism. They attack the film, “Columbia Unbecoming,” as a propaganda film, but it is not clear whether they actually saw the film, which documents many of the abuses at Columbia. They cite the academic review of the charges from the film to impugn the critics, but that review was widely seen by everyone familiar with the situation at Columbia as a whitewash (all the committee members had ties to the department and three had called for divestment from Israel). The university was so concerned with the activities in the Middle Eastern Languages and Civilization department that it took over its administration.

Imagine a professor teaching in an astronomy department that the world is flat and then claiming he is entitled to teach this because he has academic freedom and anyone who says otherwise is engaged in McCarthyism. This is essentially the position of W/M and others engaged in pseudo scholarship related to the Middle East. They maintain the right to say whatever they want, but deny anyone else similar freedom. Moreover, they claim immunity to criticism, and insist that anyone who dares to point out the speciousness of their work is engaged in a campaign of censorship.

They also assert that no one can criticize detractors like Jimmy Carter, Tony Judt or Tony Kushner (a playwright who knows nothing about Middle East politics, but spouts criticism of Israeli policies) because they’re “respected” individuals and any criticism of them amounts to “smearing.”
Conclusion

W/M have a number of prescriptions for saving the United States from the dreaded Israel lobby. For example, they argue the United States should keep its armed forces “over the horizon” to reduce resentment toward America. The idea is based on the false assumption that the presence of American troops is the cause of resentment rather than rejection of our values by Islamists. The deployment of U.S. forces also has nothing to do with Israel since the lobby has no interest in seeing American soldiers in Saudi Arabia or other Arab states.

They also believe the U.S. should cut a deal with Iran without specifying what kind of agreement, and after writing earlier that the Iranians have no interest in negotiating with the United States. In May 2008, the U.S. and the other major powers offered Iran a series of carrots to stop their nuclear program and the Iranians defiantly rejected them.

The Arabs are not expected to do anything to contribute to peace. The entire onus is on Israel. W/M believe the U.S. should force Israel to give up the Golan Heights. The U.S. should also oppose the “expansionist” Israeli policy, setting aside the fact that Israel is the only expansionist power in history to repeatedly give up territory. Israel must give up more, however, and return nearly to the 1967 borders and acknowledge the right of the Palestinian refugees to return. Why? How does that serve U.S. interests?

In their fantasy world, ending the occupation would solve all the region’s problems. Of course they don’t address the sticky issue of why there was no peace before the occupation or after disengagement.

W/M call for a cutoff of economic and military aid if Israel doesn’t accept a Palestinian state or if Israel acts unilaterally (even though that would end the occupation!). Have they considered Jordan’s concerns about a Palestinian state? Or Egypt’s? They certainly don’t discuss them. Israel does accept a Palestinian state, but the Palestinians have not been willing to agree to one that coexists with Israel. They say the U.S. has to put significant pressure on Israel to accept the Clinton parameters, but it was Israel that accepted them in 2000 while the Palestinians rejected the plan. In one more contradiction they say Eisenhower could threaten Israel, but those days are past. Later, however, W/M give examples that those times have not yet past. In fact, Reagan and both Bushes went beyond threats and did punish Israel when they were upset by certain policies.

W/M want the U.S. to promise support to the Palestinians if they end terrorism, but this was precisely the bargain George Shultz made in 1988, Bill Clinton made in 1993 and George W. Bush made in 2002. The Palestinians have yet to fulfill any of their promises but W/M see no reason to criticize them or call for tougher measures to encourage their compliance.

Another straw man they build is the suggestion that the only alternatives to a two state solution are expulsion, binationalism or apartheid. But Israel accepts a two-state solution. And even if it didn’t, there are other options they don’t consider, such as a confederation with Jordan.

After spending 350 pages complaining, the authors are left with the question of how to fight the nefarious lobby. They see little hope of weakening it, though they believe campaign finance reform would help (that was also the view after the post-Watergate reforms, but it did not happen). W/M think a counter lobby will be too small and underfinanced, but they would like Jewish leaders to recognize the error of their ways and create a new lobby. After bashing Israel throughout the book, they now presume to know what’s best for the pro-Israel community. They also call for scholars and journalists to resist lobby efforts to shape the debate, but those same elites should listen to their effort to misinform them.

In their view, the flawed policies of the Bush Administration are so apparent and adverse that the impact of the lobby is impossible to overlook. But it is overlooked because most people disagree with them.

Israel’s detractors have embraced the book because its argument fits neatly into their views of an all-powerful group of Jews who control U.S. foreign policy, but they should be offended by the racist, paternalistic tone of the book, which sees the Arabs as impotent and unable to affect their own fate or influence U.S. policy.

While reviewers and experts in the field have dismissed the book, it could have an impact on attitudes toward the lobby and U.S. Middle East policy because it is likely to penetrate college classrooms around the country. Some professors who themselves lack sufficient expertise to recognize the book’s flaws will assign it either because of the reputations of the authors or the belief that it covers an important element of Middle East decision-making. Some instructors may see the book as a way to “balance” works sympathetic to Israel; others whose courses are already one-sided will see the book as bolstering their political agendas. It is comparable to teaching a course on the Holocaust and putting the work of deniers on the syllabus.

 

SMEDLEY BUTLER

2:49 AM ET

June 6, 2011

Seriously?

You mus be kidding.

Nice work on the Hashara. This is classic JIDF.

www.thejidf.org/

 

COMETLINEAR

3:19 AM ET

June 6, 2011

Ah yes, the old "Jews control the media" argument.

The Jews control the media. The Jews control the government. It's bloody amazing how many things those Jews have their fingers in!

Or maybe the American people (the smart ones, unlike you) simply realize that Jews respect human rights and individual expression, and merely want to go to school and do things with their lives.

Occam's razor, you know. Now you can go back to playing Warcraft.

 

NEOLEFT

8:00 AM ET

June 6, 2011

I wish I had a dollar for every time a hasbara troll

criticised the “shoddy scholarship” of Walt and Meareshimer's book, and then resorting to shoddy scholarship to make their case (having themselves never read it or blatantly attributing false arguments to the authors)

AHMEDWALID's scholarship is so poor in fact that he plagiarises an entire 15,000 article and doesn't even cite the author, in this case, Mitchell Bard, who's book BTW garnered such littel attention, it's availabel as a free download. Either way, he comes of sounding pretty unhinged.

AHMEDWALID, the Likudnik posing as a Palestinian, is the latest of many who have been trying for 5 years to chip away and bring down Walt and Meareshimer. Needless to say, they have all failed miserably and only succeeded in adding credibility to their argument. You'd think that they would try and new tact, as opposed to persisting with the failed one, but versatility is not a Zionist strength it seems.

I have noticed a trend on a number of blogs recently that hasbara operatives are now claiming to be Arab/Palestinians with a rabidly pro Zionist view. No doubt, this is the latest tactic, among many that have come and gone, to try and repackage the Zionist narrate in a more credible and mainstream light.

Like all the phony strategies before it, it is failing miserably, largely because Zionists don't understand the first thing about subtlety. It is truly astounding how none of these trolls have ever thought to read the book they claim to be refuting. Seriously AHMEDWALID, the book it pretty thin and makes for easy reading. There is no excuse for your ignorance and lack of understanding about W&M's arguments.

You can't get more lame and lazy than to claim that W&M ever suggested Jews were to blame for 9/11 or the war in Iraq. W&M have never suggested anything of the kind and I suspect even AHMEDWALID knows this, but seeing as he has such little material to work with, has little choice but to recyclesuch garbage.

I would be curious to see AHMEDWALID's or bard's evidence that W&M received a six-figure advance for their book, or an example of the “guaranteed celebrity speaking fees” they've since accumulated.

I'm not holding my breath.

One could waste their time refuting all fo Bard's lazy, shallow, dishonest and lame arguments, but here are just a few:

Bard misses the essential argument that W&M make. His criticism they they conducted no interviews with members of the lobby clearly demonstrates this. W&M go to great lengths to explain that the lobby is not simply one organisation, but a loosely connected conglomerate of groups and individuals. Therefore, interviewing “ members of the lobby” would be futile.

AHMEDWALID/Bard, having not read the book, clearly has read none of the books and articles
cited in the references, but plays a game of bluff here by making broad and sweeping generalisations about references that have disproved their thesis, while never bothering to provide an example. Yes, AHMEDWALID/Bard suggests that facts do not matter to W&M.

Priceless.

>> Currency in the academic world is publication in peer reviewed journals and university presses, so the first question raised about W/M’s work was why they went outside the academic channel.

Actually, they didn't go outside the academic channel. Had you read the book or knew anything about it, you'd also realize that their thesis was peer reviewed.

AHMEDWALID/Bard then makes the rather lame argument that W&M's willingness to speak at forums critical of Israel (ie. as in not an Israeli cheer squad) casts aspersions about heir motives, but doesn't bother to cite any examples of W&M rejecting invitations to address pro Israeli groups or to debate “ experts in the field”.

Having watched the debate W&M had with Ross, Indyk and Ben-Ami, one could hardly conclude that anyone was torn apart , though a memorable moment was when Indyk (quibbling about a very minor point) threw a tantrum about poor scholarship, but never explained why. In fact, Indyk gave a very poor performance and Ross was a non event. The star of that debate was the late Tony Judt, who definitely made Ross and Indyk look like rank amateurs, and drew the abundance of applause from the audience. Ben-Ami, who came off looking weary and defeated, had very little to offer the debate other than to insist that things would have been better had Labor still been in power.

The book was certainly attacked when it came out, and as we see on this blog every week, continues to be attacked 5 years later, and while hasbrats like AHMEDWALID want ever so desperately to convince the rest of us that the book has been discredited, he still feels he needs 15,000 words to make that argument.

The truth is that W&M inflicted a wound on the lobby and the lobby has never been the same since. In fact, since the book was released, the lobby has become clumsy, crude, and overplayed it's hand and no longer makes any pretence of working behind the scenes.

Benny Morris spends a lot of his time these days accusing others of misrepresented his work, when in fact, Morris himself has shifted his position since he released his ground breaking publications, but is to dishonest to admit it. Apparently, the job he received at ...University came with strings attached.

It is a historical fact that the Zionist Congress rejected the Peel Commission recommendation for a partition and Morris did indeed state unambiguously that Ben Gurion wrote in a letter to his son that the partition was the first stage in claiming the whole of Palestine.

W&M do not ignore U.S. interest oil, but then again, when the US was forced to choose between oil interests and Israel during the 1970's oil embargo, the US stuck with Israel and risked driving the economy into the ground. Without oil, Americans would not care at all about Arabs, but nor would they care about Israel either. We keep hearing about Israel being the only democracy in the region, but that only matters because the US has interests in the region.

General Patreaus made it perfectly clear how the special relationship is adversely affecting US interests, not to mention that the 911 Commission Report spelled out in no uncertain terms that the I/P conflict was a primary motivation for Kaleid Sheik Mohammed and Mohammed Atta.

>> It may have also escaped the authors’ notice that despite their alleged love of the Palestinians and dislike for U.S. policy, the oil producers have not imposed any other embargoes.

That's easily explained by the fact that the US undertook strong measures to ensure there would be no further embargo.
Israel does not share strategic interests with the United States, and as for containing radicalism and prevent the spread of WMDs, Israel has not produced any benefit in that regard. In fact, Israel has been detrimental in both cases.

America has never cared about freedom and democracy in the Middle East and Israel, they care about power. In fact, the overthrow of Mossadegh and the undermining of Palestinian elections in 2005 are perfect demonstrations of the US working to circumvent freedom and democracy.

>> In particular, the U.S. tried for years to lure Egypt into the Western camp, but Gamal Nasser had his own agenda to unify the Arab world behind his leadership.

Had the US been remotely concerned with freedom and democracy in the Middle East, they would not have looked upon Pan Arabism as a threat to their own interests. US opposition to Arab unity was born of the continuation of the British Empire, who always worked to divide and conquer the ME. In fact, long before Lloyd George and Balfour threw their weight behind the concept of a Jewish homeland, the British were contemplating the idea of creating a Jewish state in the Middle East as a means of maintaining division between Arab states.

>> If Israel disappeared tomorrow, the people who now despise the United States would not change their views.

That is partly true and M&W never argued otherwise. In fact, W&M never made the argument that Israel was the only cause of unrest and resentment towards the US.

>> If you were to draw a graph of the relationship between the United States and Israel, and the United States and the Arab states, the lines would move in tandem with relations growing stronger over time with each.

No you would not. In fact, today, relations between the US and Egypt/Yemen, Tunisia, Syria, Iran, and Lebanon are at an all time low.

So much for your graph.

There is no contradiction between the U.S. not being supportive of Israel in the 1950s and only gave limited support in the 1960s. Anyone with any knowledge of the region would understand that US support for Israel spiked after the 1967 war. This also explains why arms sales to Israel were modest until 1967.

Israel did indeed miss chances for peace with Egypt in 1971-72. Indeed, it was Israel's agreements to Sadat's demands that led to the peace treaty with Egypt. Of course, Israel reneged on that agreement. AHMEDWALID seems ignorant of the fact that Kissinger played a major role in undermining any such peace negotiations.

>> The book is based on the faulty premise that the Israel lobby’s goal is to help Israel rather than strengthen the relations between the U.S. and Israel.

That's called a distinction without a difference. When the Israeli leader publicly humiliates and undermines the US president (as he did with Clinton as well as Obama) and the lobby supports him unconditionally, then is safe to assume that helping Israel takes precedent over strengthening the relations between the U.S. and Israel.

>> For example, some Israeli leaders and neoconservatives supported democratization in the Middle East, Bush adopted this view, therefore, they conclude the lobby influenced policy.

Bush adopted a view that was spoon fed to him by the same group that worked for Netenyahu. As Bob Woodward observed in his first book, Bush was an empty vessel waiting for an ideology to fill the void. That the neocons and Cheney/ Rumsfeld was incidental.

>> The recurrent theme of the book, nonetheless, is to blame the Jews for all the deficiencies they see in U.S. Middle East policy and that is why some critics have labeled the authors anti-Semites.

This is a blatant lie. Nowhere in the book is the tern “the Jews” to be found.

>> They also refer to these agencies as though they are disinterested parties when, in fact, employees in both organizations are associated with the Arab lobby.

It's amusing that you should accuse W&M of not naming names, and then doing the same. What employees in both organizations are associated with the Arab lobby?

>> They assert, for example, that no other lobby skews the national interest, but what about the China, Turkish, Armenian, Indian, Greek, Irish or Cuban lobbies? Do they better represent the U.S. Interest?

Unlike AIPAC etc. they don't pretend to, and unlike AIPAC, all of the above are registered as lobbied for a foreign state. W&M state very clearly in their book that the activities of the Israeli Lobby are legitimate and legal. That does not make them immune to scrutiny and debate.

>> While they suggest the lobby is omnipotent, they never make clear connections between the lobby and policy decisions.

So first you claim that they never make “clear connections between the lobby and policy decisions”, then admit that they do with foreign aid to Israel, but argue that this doesn't undermined any U.S. Interest.

Of course, it actually does. Martin Indyk recently stated in an interview that one of the goals of arming and aiding Israel to the teeth was to give them the confidence to take risks (peace wise), but that the policy had produced the opposite effect and convinced the Israelis that they didn't need to make peace. Patreaus explains that Israeli belligerence is risking the lives of US troops in the region.

Bard's pathic and desperate screed goes downhilll from there, but you get the drift.

 

NEOLEFT

8:05 AM ET

June 6, 2011

The hasbara tolls are are now trying to drown this blog by spam

Desperate times call for deperate measures.

Clearly, these Zionist apologists have run out fo arguments, so have given up tryign to think for themselves. Sadly, this might require the moderators to impose a word count on the postings here.

How typical. They know they've lost the debate, so their only recourse is to try and poliye the comments section.

 

NEOLEFT

9:28 AM ET

June 6, 2011

Israel is a free, democratic and open for some people only

But heading towards apartheid and fascism. The left wing of politics is dead and Israel is ruled by rigth wing extremists. Those that are self-analytical are accused of being anti Israelis and those who question government poilcy are accused of delegitimizing the state.

No one is disputing the rightful place of jews among the peoples of the world, in fact, Jewish people are highly revered and deservedly so. Apologists however insit on cloaking Israel’s crimes behind the mantle of Judaism, thereby dismissing criticims as anti semtism.
Jimmy Carter's book Palestine—Peace Not Apartheid is a soft ball, and is not nearly as critical of Israel as it should be. It is amusing to listen to Israeli propagandists postuing about the term “apartheid”, when the very argument raised by Carter has been voiced repeately by Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert.

Israel does not suffer from existential threats. Those threats are illusions that are fed by the Israeli leadership in order to bind the Israeli society and jsutify Israe’s militarism, territorial aspirations and greed. It’s ironic to hear those insisting that Israel needs to protect its population from terrorist attacks, when the very satte was founded on terrorism and honored those terrorists.

Nelson Mandella and desmond Tutu both describe Israel as an apartheid state, with Tutu insisting it’s worse than apartheid South Africa ever was.

>> The United States supports Israel not because of favoritism based on political pressure or influence but because the American people, and their leaders, say that supporting Israel is politically sound and morally just.

False. The United States supports repugnant regimes like Saudi Arabia, and no one in their right minds would suggest that policy is mased on moral justice or has the support of the American people.

>> They are wrong because, to begin with, support for Israel is in our best interests.

False. Meird Dagan even admitted that Israel had become a liability for the US.

>> They are also wrong because Israel and its supporters have the right to try to influence U.S. policy.

Correct, but they do not have the right to corrupt our political leaders.

 

AHMEDWALID

3:14 PM ET

June 6, 2011

this guy neoleft

think he knows...I can see clearly he never has lived in Israel falastin. It is make me angry when people like him simply call names like that I am "likud" or "hasbarah." Calling name does not make what I say wrong. It just shows you are like juvenile baby.

I have read each book I mention. You seem to write only your opinion that is ridiculous. And you have posted like 50% of all comment on this page.

Here is an insider view of why Walt is wrong. I met this man once when I was in USA. He was very friendly to me even I tell him I am filastin arabic.

As Israel’s Ambassador to Washington in the mid-1990s, I worked closely with the now all too famous Israel lobby. But this was not the “Israel Lobby” described by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt. At that time, the right wing of what they characterize as a “loose coalition” of pro-Israeli groups, organizations and individuals was dead set on undermining the peace policy conducted by the government of Yitzhak Rabin in concert with the Clinton Administration. Meanwhile, the left wing of this “loose coalition” had its own notion of Israel’s and America’s best interests, also considerably at variance with the view of the Rabin government. The neoconservative critics were neither friendly nor helpful to our policies, and we did not perceive by any stretch of the imagination the Tikkun Community to be our supporters, not even when Hillary Clinton was speaking to Rabbi Michael Lerner about “spirituality.”

As it has turned out, I am not the only one who has had trouble recognizing the phenomenon Mearsheimer and Walt are describing. This trouble began for many with the publication of their essay in the London Review of Books in March 2006 and was revived after Farrar, Straus & Giroux published the book-length version of their argument late last year. The theory’s detractors fall into three often overlapping groups: Those who do not recognize their description of the lobby; those who do not recognize their historical narrative, except as an extended summary of standard anti-Israel propaganda; and, most important, those who do not recognize the American policy process as it is presumed to operate in The Israel Lobby.

Taken together, the reception of the book and the authors’ reaction to this reception form a larger subject than just the book itself. That is appropriate, perhaps, for a book with such an unusual birth. The Israel Lobby originated as a piece commissioned but then rejected by The Atlantic, only to end up in the London Review of Books, with a somewhat longer “working paper” available simultaneously on a Harvard University website. The essay thus generated much attention and controversy long before it became a book, in which the authors toned down some of their language and corrected some but not all of the original’s many factual errors.

The book’s publication was then accompanied by an “anti-book”, Abe Foxman’s refutation of the main arguments raised by the original essay. Both remain on the “top ten” foreign affairs hardcover best-seller list. It is fair to say, then, that if the authors merely wanted to revive and upgrade conversation about a subject that, contrary to their own protestations, has long been with us—at least since Congressman Paul Findley published They Dare Speak Out in 1985, George Ball wrote The Passionate Attachment in 1992, and Senator J. William Fulbright referred to the Congress as “Israeli occupied territory”—then they have succeeded.

The most ambitious effort to commend The Israel Lobby and defend it against an alleged witch-hunt came from Scott McConnell in the December 2007 issue of the American Conservative. This is hardly surprising, since no one is more antagonistic to neoconservatives than the paleoconservatives represented by that publication, founded by none other than Patrick Buchanan, of “amen corner” fame. For McConnell, the “neocons” are “the highest stage” of that lobby, and it was their strategic positioning within the Bush Administration that enabled the lobby to push the United States to go to war in Iraq.

McConnell is full of praise, calling The Israel Lobby “an extraordinary accomplishment, completed with great speed—a dense, factually based brief of an argument that is often made, but rarely made well.” “The authors”, he tells us “have done their country a great service.” But McConnell’s piece, like this one, is not meant as a mere book review; it also seeks to deal with a whole “event”—the book’s publication, its reception and the supposed “witch hunt.” He therefore tries to parse some of the negative early reviews. Thus, for example, McConnell argues that Leslie Gelb’s New York Times review can be dismissed as landing “weak blows.”

No, it cannot. Like Mearsheimer and Walt themselves, McConnell moves in circles by contending that negative reviews or insufficient attention from the mainstream media do not reflect the book’s flaws, but are instead further proof of the lobby’s ability to intimidate and silence. The truth of the matter is that, insofar as the lobby ever tries to intimidate and silence, the effort usually causes more damage than it redresses. In any event, the power of the lobby to do that is very modest. Certainly it does not extend to bloggers or to the British, European and even Israeli media, where the book has won praise as well as criticism.

The British press, excluding the Economist, has been sympathetic to the argument that the Israel lobby has hoodwinked U.S. policy in the Middle East and helped push the Bush Administration into Iraq in the service of Israeli, not American, interests. Then again, the British press, long before the Iraq war, was inclined to argue that U.S. support for Israel is largely responsible for Arab and Muslim hatred of America, and for the terrorist attacks produced by this hatred. Thus Geoffrey Wheatcroft, author of a well-received book on Israel and Zionism some years ago, writes in the September 29, 2007 Guardian:
Where Mearsheimer and Walt are on their strongest ground is in saying, as foreign-policy realists, that the Israeli alliance is very costly for the United States, and that’s where American supporters of Israel are on their weakest ground. Those supporters sometimes claim that the alliance is based on the affinity so many Americans supposedly feel for Israel, but at the same time they ‘bend over backward to help people understand that support for Israel is also in America’s strategic interests’, as Hyman Bookbinder of the American Jewish Committee put it.

Jonathan Mirsky, writing in the September 29, 2007 issue of the Spectator, agrees: “I have noted my points of disagreement, but this densely footnoted and courageous book deserves praise rather than abuse.”

Several of Mearsheimer and Walt’s critics have lumped their book together with Jimmy Carter’s anti-Israel tirade Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid (2006). It is uncommon, on the other hand, to find anyone who will defend both, but Carter’s National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski came close. In a brief comment (though not a review) in Foreign Policy, Brzezinski endorsed The Israel Lobby while at the same time praising the Carter Administration’s “impartial” policy in the Middle East. Clearly, what most concerns Brezezinki are practical matters. He argues that during the past quarter century U.S. policy in the Middle East has shifted from the “relative impartiality” that delivered the Camp David Accords to the “adoption of the Israeli perspective in the Arab-Israeli Conflict.” This, in his view, has not served U.S. interests.

Brzezinski’s description is not entirely accurate. Anwar Sadat went to Jerusalem in November 1977 not because he sought to take advantage of the Carter Administration’s even-handedness, but because he feared that Carter’s “comprehensive” as opposed to “step-by-step” policies would give local rejectionists and the Soviet Union a veto over Egypt’s desire to make peace. And as anyone will know who remembers President George H.W. Bush’s famous plaint—that he was “just one guy” standing against the wrath of the Israel lobby over the granting of loan guarantees to help settle Soviet Jewish immigrants in Israel—not every administration since Carter’s has been so pro-Israel. Nevertheless, it is true that during the last decade some U.S. officials recruited from AIPAC or pro-Israel research institutions preferred the Syrian track of the peace process to the Palestinian track, thus serving to reinforce the inclination to downplay the sense of urgency about tackling the Palestinian cauldron.

Brzezinski’s praise is thus not baseless, but it is not complete, either. He identifies a bias in The Israel Lobby’s historical narrative, observing that Mearsheimer and Walt could be labeled as “being in some respects anti-Israel.” But he adds, in a very common trope, that “an anti-Israel bias is not the same as anti-Semitism.” This had the sound of a well-practiced point.

Brzezinski was not speaking theoretically of anti-Semitism. Mearsheimer and Walt’s original essay elicited far more criticism than even guarded praise, and some of it did raise charges of anti-Semitism. Some of that carried over into reviews of the book—thus the title given by the September 7, 2007 Wall Street Journal to Jeff Robbins’ review, “Anti-Semitism and the Anti-Israel Lobby.”

Robbins’ criticism of The Israel Lobby is twofold. First, in his view the authors completely ignore the massive pro-Arab lobby, “funded in significant measure by foreign oil money”, while at the same time “taking American Jews to task for participating in the American political process”, as is their democratic right. Second, Robbins criticizes Mearsheimer and Walt for trying to inculcate themselves against charges of anti-Jewish bias by preemptively predicting that the Jewish lobby “will accuse them of it.”

What Robbins fails to note is that this tactic has worked: Mearsheimer and Walt were accused of anti-Semitism, and their preemptive prediction worked well enough that those making such accusations came off the worse for so doing. They could only argue their case indirectly, saying that the book was anti-Semitic in effect if not by intention, for no one could adduce evidence of the authors’ malign intent toward Jews as a group (as distinct from their attitude toward the Jewish State). That’s because there was and is none.

Mearsheimer and Walt do not seem particularly to care about Jews one way or the other. They care about American foreign policy, which, as we know from their other works, they believe should be guided by a restrained, “off-shore balancing” approach. That is not what guides U.S. foreign policy in either Democratic or Republican administrations, however. Since the authors cannot believe that anyone could disagree with them on the merits, they seek other explanations for failing to convince the powers that be. They identify the Middle East as the source that beckons U.S. power and prestige beyond the bounds of safe shelter, they see the Israel-Palestine conflict at the epicenter of that source, and they see domestic U.S. lobbying politics at the center of that center. They may be right or wrong analytically (I think they are mostly wrong), but this is their motive, which has nothing to do with liking or disliking Jews.

In one of the few reviews to get at the realist core of Mearsheimer and Walt’s argument, William Grimes, writing in the September 6, 2007 New York Times, defines The Israel Lobby as a “prosecutorial brief against Israel and its supporters” that describes
a virtual rogue state, empowered by American wealth and might, that blocks peace at every turn, threatens its cowering neighbors with impunity, crushes the national aspirations of the Palestinians and, whenever the opportunity arises, bites the hand that feeds it.

Grimes agrees with some of the authors’ arguments, but concludes shrewdly that the
general tone of hostility to Israel grates on the nerves, however, along with an unignorable impression that hardheaded political realism can be subjected to its own peculiar fantasies. Israel is not simply one country among many, for example, just as Britain is not. Americans feel strong ties of history, religion, culture and, yes, sentiment, that the authors recognize, but only in an airy, abstract way.

Indeed, a genuine, accurate historical narrative of U.S.-Israeli relations cannot be exclusively realist; that oversimplifies a more complex reality. Tim Rutten’s review in the September 11, 2007 Los Angeles Times focuses precisely on that complex reality:
Anyone familiar with the tortuous history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will have a hard time recognizing the history Mearsheimer and Walt rehearse. Every hoary old Israeli atrocity tale is trotted out, and the long story of Palestinian terrorism is rendered entirely as a reaction to Israeli oppression. The failure of every peace negotiation is attributed to Israeli deviousness under the shield of the American Israeli lobby. There is nothing here of Palestinian corruption, division and duplicity or even of this unhappy people’s inability to provide a reliable secular partner with whom peace can be negotiated.

Rutten is on target, despite the fact that, to most newspaper readers, the intricacies of the history boil down to an inconclusive “he said/she said” kind of argument.

That is less likely to be the case, however, with Mearsheimer and Walt’s central contention: that the Israel lobby, acting as the Likud Party’s proxy, drove the United States into attacking Saddam Hussein. Here the authors are on the shakiest of ground; even their approach belies the weakness of the argument. Readers are treated to an explication of the religious affiliations of various Bush Administration officials and others, even Howard Dean, that reads as though it was inspired by the Nuremberg Laws. Left unmentioned is the fact that the figure most responsible for pushing the attack on Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney, is neither Jewish nor ideologically neoconservative. He is a card-carrying member of the petroleum-industry elite, yet names like Halliburton and ExxonMobil never make their way onto these pages.

The United States attacked Iraq because key Administration figures, panicked and disconsolate over the September 11 atrocities and anthrax scare, were misled by some still-unsettled combination of bad and manipulated intelligence into thinking that another attack, probably one using weapons of mass destruction (Cheney most feared bioweapons) was imminent. Misread snippets of intelligence suggested that Iraq might be involved, and the American people, as rattled as their leaders, were prepared to give the Administration the benefit of the doubt under the circumstances.

The best, and most entertaining, criticism of Mearsheimer and Walt on this score was written by Harvey Sicherman, a former aide to three Secretaries of State, shortly after the original essay appeared. Walt and Mearsheimer, wrote Sicherman, “depict Israel and the Lobby as desperate to get the United States into war against Saddam” for several years before September 11, 2001, but admit that the lobby failed both to persuade President Clinton to make war and President Bush to do so before 9/11. Then Sicherman quotes Mearsheimer and Walt from the London Review essay as follows: “They needed help to achieve their aim. That help arrived with 9/11. Specifically, the events of that day led Bush and Cheney to reverse course and become strong proponents of a preventative war.” Sicherman continues:
So you see, the war was “due in large part to the Lobby’s influence” except that the influence failed until 9/11 changed the President’s mind, that is, his concept of what the national interest required. Elementary logic demands this conclusion: the Iraq war should be put on Osama bin Laden’s account, not AIPAC’s or Israel’s. The authors, however, seem so anxious to make their case for the Lobby’s baleful influence that they have unmade it themselves. A blunder of this kind would flunk a freshman.1

The Economist, too, in its customary succinct and understated fashion, determined (on September 29, 2007) that the book’s main thesis “that the Israel lobby was critical in persuading George Bush to invade Iraq doesn’t quite stand up.” The argument, it added, “feels like an attempt to absolve America of responsibility for a decision it took by and for itself.”

Perthaps the most powerful attack on the book and its authors came from the pen of Jeffrey Goldberg in the October 8, 2007 New Republic. Tongue in cheek, Goldberg replaced the term anti-Semitism with “Judeocentrism”, the exaggeration of the Jewish role in all things, a variation of the term Jewcentricity coined by Adam Garfinkle in these pages a year before.2 America, Goldberg recounts, has a long tradition of Judeocentrism and places the two authors squarely within it. Their book, he says, “represents the most sustained attack, the most mainstream attack, against the political enfranchisement of American Jews since the era of Father Coughlin.”

Goldberg then proceeds to criticize Mearsheimer and Walt for poor methodology and for distorting the full length of Israel’s history in order to deny it any moral value. After detailing his own criticism of several aspects of AIPAC’s work, Goldberg, too, takes on the twin claims that Israel and the Israeli lobby pushed the United States into the Iraq war, and that September 11 happened primarily because of U.S. support for Israel. On the former point, Goldberg argues along the same lines as Sicherman and the Economist.

On the second, however, Goldberg soon detours in favor of other themes, one of which circles back to Judeocentrism: Mearsheimer and Walt’s apparently unwitting deployment of double standards. The authors attribute “some” anti-Semitism in Europe to provocation by “Israel’s behavior toward the Palestinians”, though they admit that “some of it is straightforwardly racist.” Goldberg then proceeds:

This is a bizarre and foul passage, its foulness easily clarified by a simple act of substitution. Imagine Farrar, Straus and Giroux publishing the following sentence: “We would not deny that there is some racial prejudice among whites, some of it provoked by the misbehavior of African-Americans, and some of it straightforwardly racist.” Mearsheimer and Walt are the sort of scholars who think that, if you wish to understand racism study blacks, and if you wish to understand anti-Semitism study Jews. They are chillingly unaware that such views are complicit with the prejudice they claim to abhor.

Lastly, Goldberg examines the third basic criticism leveled by most reviewers: that Mearsheimer and Walt seem to have no idea how U.S. foreign policy is actually made. Goldberg plies this theme by recalling how he once asked Donald Rumsfeld what he made of the contention that neoconservatives manipulated the Bush Administration into attacking Iraq. “I suppose the implication is that the president and the vice-president and myself and Colin Powell just fell off a turnip truck to take these jobs”, Rumsfeld answered. Goldberg concludes that Mearsheimer and Walt “seem to think that William Kristol is the commander in chief.”

Leslie Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations and a former Assistant Secretary of State, has made a similar argument. After acknowledging that the book raised serious issues, and that its points deserved answers instead of paroxysms of name-calling, Gelb focused on “their puzzlingly shoddy scholarship”, especially the very strange decision to write “on this sensitive topic without doing extensive interviews with the lobbyists and the lobbied.” Had they done so, they might have come to realize that “the real play-callers behind the war were President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. They hardly have a history of being in the pockets of the Jewish lobby (more like the oil lobby’s), and they aren’t remotely neoconservatives.”

Gelb then excels precisely at the point Goldberg left off. He agrees that America’s close ties with Israel “compound” its problems with Arabs and Muslims, but rejects the claim that they cause them: “Israel does not harm American security interests to anywhere near the degree that Mearsheimer and Walt claim it does.” Rather, Gelb points out,
The main source of anti-Americanism and anti-American terrorism is America’s deep ties with highly unpopular regimes in countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt. . . . America’s central strategic problem in the region . . . is that we need our corrupt, inept and unpopular Arab allies because the likely alternative to them is far worse.

These allies may insist that it is really Israel that causes America’s problems with Islamist terrorists, but they do so before credulous Westerners only to draw attention away from their own, far more significant role.

Mearsheimer and Walt, Gelb points out, say nothing of this, just as they overlook the role of other important, hardly less powerful actors on the American political scene: Saudi Arabia and the oil companies. How else to explain how the Israel lobby failed repeatedly to prevent the sale of sophisticated U.S. arms to Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries, and failed to prevent every U.S. administration since Nixon’s from essentially taking the Arab/Palestinian view about the ultimate disposition of the West Bank and Gaza? But as Gelb points out, Mearsheimer and Walt do not have to explain these facts for the simple reason that they never mention them.

Finally, Walter Russell Mead’s critique of The Israel Lobby in the November/December issue of Foreign Affairs gets at the consequences of all this. Mead commends the authors for starting “a much needed conversation on a controversial and combustible topic.” But his faint praise soon gives way to a description of the book as simplistic, loose and rhetorical with a disagreeably disingenuous tone. It fails to define the “lobby” clearly, writes Mead, and its use of evidence is, in what has to be taken as a generous comment, “uneven.”

On substantive issues Mead believes that Mearsheimer and Walt underestimate Israel’s enduring strategic value to the United States and, more important to the matter at hand, overestimate the importance of Jewish political power and money. As a result, Mead concludes, The Israel Lobby, “will have the opposite of its desired effect: impeding new thinking about U.S. policy in the Middle East rather than advancing the debate. . . . [W]ritten in haste, the book will be repented at leisure.”

I share the thrust of Gelb’s and Mead’s criticisms but wish to extend them a bit in three directions: methodology, historical accuracy and the longer-term effects of The Israel Lobby phenomenon.

As an historian of Arab-Israeli relations, I am left breathless by the manner in which Mearsheimer and Walt have ransacked the “revisionist school” of Israel’s history, and done so in a way that suggests to those not knowledgeable in the field that it is now the accepted, majority view in the academy. Revisionist Israeli history judges most decisions taken by most Israeli governments in the harshest possible way. It is not even remotely a majority view in Israel, or anywhere else serious historians work. To present this view and no other as the correct one is roughly comparable to presuming that Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore represent mainstream American views on U.S. politics and history.

Indeed, one such revisionist historian cited in The Israel Lobby, Benny Morris, has already defended himself against the misuses to which Mearsheimer and Walt put his work. Writing in the May 8, 2006 New Republic, Morris wrote:
Like many pro-Arab propagandists at work today, Mearsheimer and Walt often cite my own books, sometimes quoting directly from them, in apparent corroboration of their arguments. Yet their work is a travesty of the history that I have studied and written for the past two decades. Their work is riddled with shoddiness and defiled by mendacity.

If Morris himself sees fit to criticize Mearsheimer and Walt in such terms, I need say no more.

As to matters of fact—and I focus here on chapter 9, “Taking Aim at Syria”, as a student and practitioner of Israel’s relationship with that country—it is ludicrous for Mearsheimer and Walt to blame the Israel lobby for the current Bush Administration’s hostility to Syria and to President Bashar al-Asad. The President’s personal antipathy and his Administration’s hostility are fuelled by several sources: Syria’s support for the Sunni insurrection in Iraq, its efforts to undermine the Seniora government in Lebanon, its alliance with Iran, and its harboring of and support for terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad, which undermine secular, pragmatic trends in Palestinian politics. Washington needs no help from the Israel lobby to have a problem with Damascus. I can assure Mearsheimer and Walt, too, that when George W. Bush and Nicolas Sarkozy recently stated “they have had it with Bashar al-Asad” over his murderous interference in Lebanon, they required no coaching from the Israeli government or its supporters.

What, then, is the ultimate significance of the publication of The Israel Lobby? One can make a case that it is very significant. There is, after all, the huge advance by a major publisher, the 275,000 downloads from the Kennedy School’s website, the book’s best-seller status, the extensive promotional tour in the United States and Europe, the extravagant media coverage. All this, and a bit of wishful thinking thrown in for leavening, has led the American Conservative’s Scott McConnell to suppose that The Israel Lobby will be around for a long time, perhaps longer than AIPAC itself. He compares the book to The Gulag Archipelago and quotes other enthusiasts who invoke Uncle Tom’s Cabin and Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring.

This is so much nonsense. The Israel Lobby lacks the moral force, creative insight, intellectual rigor or emotional appeal of any of these books. Rather than Uncle Tom’s Cabin it should be compared to Edward Said’s Orientalism, and even then it does not come out so well. For all its flaws, Orientalism was full of power and had a major impact academically, intellectually and politically. The Israel Lobby will pale in comparison because the only way it can become an esteemed classic is if its underlying thesis is correct: that a domestic political lobby drives U.S. policy in the Middle East. If that were true, then the ruckus raised by The Israeli Lobby would establish the book as a classic. But it isn’t true. Domestic politics and lobbying do matter when it comes to matters of tone and timing, but as Aaron David Miller, a veteran American peace-process diplomat, puts it in his forthcoming The Much Too Promised Land, “I can’t remember a single decision of consequence American peace process advisers made, or one we didn’t, that was directly tied to some lobbyist’s call, letter, or pressure tactic.”

Nonetheless, the larger phenomenon of The Israel Lobby should give Israel and its friends pause. They should rethink the way Israel’s cause is perceived and advocated, and more profoundly, the foundations on which the U.S.-Israeli “special relationship” should rest in coming years. It is true, as Leslie Gelb and others suggest, that it is harder to make a realist case for the U.S.-Israeli relationship today than it was during the Cold War. At that time, Israel’s role as a strategic asset was clear, if not to off-shore balancers like Mearsheimer and Walt, then to every American President since John F. Kennedy. Israel and the United States had the same enemies—the Soviet Union and its radical Arab allies—with the conservative Arab regimes stuck awkwardly in the middle. Today things are altogether more muddled, so a more plausible case can be made that Israel is a drag on U.S. security interests and that radical Muslims only hate and attack America because of its support for Israel. We may understand, along with Gelb, that repressive Arab regimes help al-Qaeda recruitment more than anything Israel does, but it remains true that the fixation of Arab streets and palaces alike on Israel, no matter its sources or logic, is a psychological fact that cannot be wished away.

Clearly, the end of the Cold War and the rise of new challenges require fresh thinking about the strategic dimension of the U.S.-Israeli relationship. By defending every aspect of the special relationship when the rationales for them no longer exist, the Israel lobby risks overloading what political realities can bear. There will always be those like Mearsheimer and Walt, as there have been since 1947–48, when the State of Israel came into being, who will argue that U.S. support for Israel and its policies harms U.S. national interests. Israel’s response must focus not only on refuting this charge but on formulating policies that will render Israel, in deed as well as in rhetoric, a valuable partner of the United States.

An opportunity to do precisely that is in the offing, for the next U.S. administration will no doubt formulate a revised comprehensive policy toward the Middle East. An Israel engaged in a peace process orchestrated by the United States and working together with Washington and its other Middle Eastern allies against radical foes will be an important strategic asset in the post-Cold War Middle East. The specific challenge for Israel and its American friends will be their ability to demonstrate how Israel can serve as a strategic asset in the Iranian and Syrian context as it once did against the Soviet Union and its radical allies in the region. The wider strategic canvas, not the vicissitudes of U.S. domestic politics, will as always make the difference.

 

SABABA03

4:31 PM ET

June 6, 2011

Wag the dog's tail

Funny until now I have never read such as long post (and mostly what you call bla bla bla) from our friend NEOLEFT - having his "day in the sun". by posting his own version of long monolog.

Mr. Walid's long and factual comments to M/W book where he goes point-by-point and rebuttals their mostly false and ill researched thesis.

What Mr. Valid is trying to convey to the professors is that. "I was there (in the pertinent region), you were not". I draw my conclusions from what I personally have seen, and experienced on the ground.

I draw my opinions from reality. while you two, seem to have drawn yours, mostly from academic theories.

 

NEOLEFT

1:53 AM ET

June 7, 2011

What makes you angry AHMEDWALID

Is the fact that no one is buying Hasbara, let alone your phony claim to being an Israeli Arab.

No one needs to have lived in Israel or the cocuped territories to be informed about the reality of he situation there. Most experts on WWII were either too young to remember and probably never been to Germany.

If you had read Walt & Meareshimer's book, then you would know that most of bard's comments are lies and not based on arguments made by the authors.
>> You seem to write only your opinion that is ridiculous.

No, I write comments based on what I know and what I have researched. As for complaining about who is taking up space on this forum, you posted a 15,000 word cut and paste article without even attributing it to it's author.

That's plagiarism.

>> He was very friendly to me even I tell him I am filastin arabic.

So what? First of all, you are not an Arab and second, bard is a liar and a propagandist who demonstrates a great deal of ignorance – which might explanation why he believed you. I debunked just a handful of his lies.

As for plagiarising a thesis by Israel’s Ambassador to Washington, you needn't have bothered. As a component of the Israeli Hasbara apparatus, it is his role to lie, deceived and conflate, ju7st as it is Michael Oren's today.

You needn't have wasted your time posting this 5000 word piece of propaganda. It's riddles with as many lies as Bard's piece, namely, he accuses W&M of “taking American Jews to task for participating in the American political process”, when they state very clearly that the activities of the lobby are legitimate and legal.

Like Ahmed, he's another that never bothered to read the book.

In any case, in spite fo your 20,000 words of spam, we have the admission by Jonathan Kessler (leadership development director for AIPAC), who boasted publicly about how the Lobby manipulates US foreign policy.

“How are we going to beat back the anti-Israel divestment resolution at Berkeley?" said Jonathan Kessler, leadership development director for AIPAC, at a recent conference of the lobbying group. "We're going to make sure that pro-Israel students take over the student government and reverse the vote. This is how AIPAC operates in our nation's capitol. This is how AIPAC must operate on our nation's campuses”

BTW Ahmed, where did you come up with your phony name? Is that the name of the guy who's house you stole and are now living in?

 

NEOLEFT

2:09 AM ET

June 7, 2011

I agree that nationhood is irrelevant to statehood.

Jews had no recognized rights to statehood until those rights were given to them by the British and the UN.

>> Palestinian Arabs existed in several distinct groups.

The same goes for Jews. The ruling class in Israel are the Ashkenazi, and the lower classes are the Seraphim and Mizrahi.

>> Foreign Arabs recognized Palestinian hill farmers as Syrians, and applied the term “Palestinians” to port towns’ dwellers only.

False. In 1920, everyone who inhabited Palestine was regarded as a Palestinian, being they Jews, Christian or Muslim.

>> Palestinians also include a significant number of migrants from the Middle East and North Africa who came to Palestine since the mid-nineteenth century to find jobs in the booming citrus industry.
False. The percentage of migrants to Palestine was less than 10%.

>> Today, a major Palestinian group is the professional refugees who live in Lebanon and Gaza camps for generations and developed into brigands with no productive skills and the accumulated hatred which would take generations to dissipate.

Thanks in large part to the professional ethnic supremacists and professional ethnic cleansers who put them there.

>> Those groups of Palestinians lack a unique common culture, dialect of Arabic language, religious tradition, or history.

Ashkenazi Jews shared no common culture, language, religious tradition, or history with the Mizrahi and Seraphim either until they migrated to Israel and were assimilated. Ben Gurion observed that they did not know how to pray, did not speak Hebrew and according to him, were backward, and demonstrated poor “hygiene”.

>> Palestinians are only a nation in the sense of nation-state. That’s the horse and the carriage question. Other peoples first developed as nations, then amalgamated their territories and built states.

False. Peoples usually begin by sharing a common territory, then developed as nations, then amalgamated their territories and build.

>> Palestinian Arabs, on the contrary, are treated as a nation because they settle a territory.

No, your confusing Palestinians with Israeli settlers.

 

NEOLEFT

2:17 AM ET

June 7, 2011

Walid's cut and paste spam was a joke SABABA03

Bard was even reduced to defending the Iraq was a a resounding success, which makes him and Walid true dead enders.

Bard even recuvled the long debuked propaganda that Gadaffi gave up his WMD becasue of the Iraq war, when anyone with a brain would know that Gadaffi had been offering that same deal to the US since the mid 90's.

I easily debunked just a hadnful of Bard's false claims.

>> What Mr. Valid is trying to convey to the professors is that. "I was there (in the pertinent region), you were not". I draw my conclusions from what I personally have seen, and experienced on the ground.

Most amusing, seeing as this the very argument that Israeli Hasbrats like yourself reject when it comes to the testimony of the survivors of the USS LIberty attack.

>> I draw my opinions from reality. while you two, seem to have drawn yours, mostly from academic theories.

In other words, you;ll never let facst get in the way of perfectly good propaganda and your own indioctrination.

BTW SABABA03, Ahmed is not really an Arab.

 

NEOLEFT

2:22 AM ET

June 7, 2011

Its even funnier how the most pro Israel commentators

argue that because they've been to Israle and speak Hebrew, that facts and histircal realities don't matter.

It turns out that I have spent time in Israel BTW.

Having a specialty background in the subject matter is no guarantee of crebility or authority, as has been amply demonstrated by Efraim Karsh, who is regaded as the clown prince of Israeli historian.

>> They all come off as either profiteers, opportunists, angry close-minded liberals, or Jew-hating bigots.

And you and your collagues come off as racist, ethnocentric supremacists and religious fanatics.

 

SABABA03

11:11 PM ET

June 8, 2011

Neoleft

By the way, I don't care by /n one goes by. The important elements is, as Iraeli myself, I know he makes sense. His comments are based on facts and first hand account. Yours are made from 2nd or 3rd hand account - much like the 2 professors do.

btw. Please spare me the grief. At least make sure you DO understand thte meaning of the word "Hasbara", which in Hebrew it means "explanation". Israel certainly has the god given right to explain its positions vis-a-vis the Arabs in gerneral, and the Pals in particular. That is exactly what they do.

 

MADRIGALJANMICHAEL

3:33 AM ET

June 9, 2011

putting words into my mouth

Where exactly did I assert that "any forceful response at all amounts to a war crime"? I'm glad you eventually used the word disproportionate, we agree that's the relevant legal principal. go public. However, in the same paragraph you say "the operation was largely effective in achieving it's aims." You know this is irrelevant to the charge of war crime, right?

Stop with the italics. Legal decisions are called opinions too. The report contains an opinion that war crimes were committed - by both sides. It recommends Israel and Hamas conduct their own credible investigations. Are you saying that Israel should not follow this recommendation?

 

DOOBIUS

10:00 PM ET

June 17, 2011

Are you serious?

You gotta be kidding me about a post so fricking long!!! WTF??

 

ELLERVEIRA

10:27 PM ET

June 3, 2011

retaliation

What Congress fears, I suspect, is retaliation if it doesn't enthusiastically and uncritically support Israel. I don't have right at hand the names of politicos who have been attacked and defeated for getting "out of line" but I am sure Walt could name some. I do think of an academic (and I believe there have been others) who was denied the tenure that he richly deserved as punishment for his heretical views on Israel, i.e, Norman Finkelstein. A few such very visible instances instill fear all around. And as Walt in his book pointed out, the reason for the Israel Lobby's energetic efforts at propaganda is quite simply that the Israel relationship is not in the US's best interest, and therefore has to be "sold" to the US public. The Lobby has done a pretty good job of that, I would think.

 

NEOLEFT

11:59 AM ET

June 6, 2011

Safian’s flawed analysis

Safan scratches around desperatedly to try and refute the quotes that A&M cited, but does very poor job of it.

In most cases, he simply corrects the quotes with the statements that he claims were acually, made, but it turns out that the versions he cites are at least as damning, if not worse, than those cited by W&M.

It’s also sad that he cites none other than the discredited Israeli apologist, Efraim Karsh. Karsh is notorious for obscuring facts and reporting half truths. Benny Morris and Efraim Karsh have been feuding for decades. Morris reviewed Karsh's latest book 'Palestine Betrayed' and described it as 'shop-soiled propaganda’. Karsh doesn’t even believe there are occupied territories.

For example, he expends considerable effort to obscure the facts and minimize the case of the Lydda massacre. Karsh never mentions the repeated entries in Ben Gurion’s diary which said that “Ramle and Lydda had to be destroyed” or the reports to Ben Gurion and the militia commanders about the efficacy of the air attacks conducted by the Haganah air arm in generating serious and general civilian flight (Benny Morris, The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem revisited, page 425) .

Karsh also does not mention the earlier terror bombing of Ramle’s market; the massacre of Arab workers on the outskirts of the Ramle by the IZL; and the fact that, even before the first truce, the Israeli authorities had thought of the towns offensively and conducted operations against them (page 424). Morris reports “The intention, from the first, was to depopulate them (page 435).

In regard to the Ben Gurion quote, Safan’s qualification is actually more damning than the quote he criticizes. Safan’s quote confirms that Ben Gurion wanted to “cancel the partition”. In other words, Ben-Gurion was stating exactly the opposite of what Walt and Mearsheimer would have their readers believe.

>> Clearly a program involving mass expulsions would not refer to reactions or accusations against specific people.

Safian is being grossly dishonest here. The British and Israelis were masters of collective punishment, even when based on false accusations. Ben Gurion;s diary for example, ordered that “Ramle and Lydda had to be destroyed” and there was no mention of whether the inhabitants be judges to be innocent or guilty.

In reference to statement to the 2 legged beats vs "two-footed animals", Safian is splitting hairs. A beast and an animal are the same thing for all intents and purposes.

Safian denies that Ben Gurion’s diary contains any reference to the removal of Arabs, but it is Safian who is lying. Shabatai Teveth and Benny Morris both cited David Ben Gurion’s letter to his son Amoz in 1937, which explained his support for partition. It said that a Jewish state in part of Palestine was only the beginning, not the end of the process. Ben Gurion stated that he was building a first rate military that would enable the Zionists to complete the task of redeeming the entire land and settling in the remainder of Palestine – with or without the consent of the Arabs. Decades later, Ben Gurion selected that letter for publication as a reflection of his thinking on the subject. See Letters to Paula and the Children, translated by Aubry Hodes, University of Pittsburg Press, 1971, page 153.

Also with regards to Eitan’s quote, Saifan argues that Eitan did not refer to Palestinians as roaches by demonstrating that Eitan refered to them as... drugged roaches. Clearly, they are entirely different. NOT. What’s more is that Saifan completely ignores the actual substance of Eitna’statement, that of collective punishment and the absurd justification Israel woudl use to build settlements.

>> Predictably, they simply accept as true Arab claims that Israel destroyed 531 Palestinian villages, and try to enlist Dayan in support of the charge:

The troule with Saifans desperate attempt at conflation, is that the Jwish state purchased very little Arab land, becasue the arabs would not sell. As of 1948, Jews only owned 7% of the land in Palestine.

Dayan was considerd to be somewhat empathitic to the Palestinians (by Zionist standards), but his idea of coexistence when he said “You will "live like dogs, and whoever will leave, will leave," while we take what we want.”

Safian's link to the MFA doesn't even work and his artilce was not even published in any mainstream news outlet.

Safian is clearly a true believer that resents the fact none of his work has received the noteriety of Walt and Meareshimer.

BTW SNIPEROIF, where was safian's piece first published? I seem to recall you making the argument that the qaulity and credibility of a piece was to be judged by where it appears.

 

LAUR

10:36 PM ET

June 3, 2011

dumb arabs

that must be the only conclusion, to have all the oil in the world and not matter in the interest war is really pathetic...

 

DIANA RELKE

10:56 PM ET

June 3, 2011

Logic

Stephen, sometimes you are just too logical. Neither the lobby nor the Israeli administration operates on the assumption that people will choose the logical argument over the irrational, emotionally-charged one.

Moreover, like the Israeli political system, Washington is completely dysfunctional; they are themselves beyond logic. Alas, these are the signs of states and empires in decline. Indeed, once you can no longer appeal to the governing elite on the basis of reason and logic, you might just as well sit back and enjoy the slide into oblivion.

 

ANDREWP111

1:42 PM ET

June 5, 2011

Politics is always based on emotion

Politics is always based on emotion. Always was, always will be. And that is especially true when people of opposite ideological persuasion do not agree on what the US Interest actually is. There are plenty of Americans who passionately believe that US interests are served by siding with Israel against the Muslims, and there are plenty of people, including the current Administration, who believe the opposite - that it is better to side with the Palestinians.

 

MUSE

12:04 AM ET

June 4, 2011

.First Tunisia, then Egypt, next Palestine?

With Mideast peace talks at an impasse, Palestinians have been looking for another route to statehood: the United Nations“We are taking our destiny in our hands,” the Palestinian’s top UN diplomat told a small group of reporters in New York on Tuesday.

Ambassador Riyad Mansour predicted millions of Palestinians would take to the streets come September, when the UN General Assembly meets, to support the cause. He drew parallels to the peaceful Arab uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt.

“The battle for our independence is not only the battle of the Palestinian leadership. This is the battle of millions of Palestinians,” Mansour said.

“I believe the Palestinian people are capable and I believe also that they want to engage in this last chapter of the struggle of ending occupation.”

He said work is already underway behind the scenes at the United Nations, as he lobbies countries to recognize a Palestinian state.

Palestine is already recognized by 112 countries. But 130 would give them a 2/3 majority in the UN’s General Assembly - the number necessary to become an official member.

There’s just one problem; according to the UN Charter, a country cannot become a member state without first getting the support of nine members of the Security Council. The United States has indicated it will veto a statehood request, saying the only way is through direct negotiations with Israel.

Mansour said the Palestinians have “other options” but refused to elaborate.

Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad al-Malki has said that the Palestinians will seek an emergency session of the General Assembly known as "Uniting for Peace" to override any veto.

General Assembly President Joseph Deiss and Security Council diplomats have all said that membership is not possible without a referral by the Security Council. The legal question currently open to debate is whether or not a vote of support in the General Assembly would be anything more than symbolic.

For now, the Palestinians’ emphasis is on building international support for their statehood - and by extension putting pressure on the United States.

“What would be the argument of President Barack Obama in trying really to disregard this wish,” Mansour said, pointing to the President's stated admiration for democratic movements in Tunisia and Egypt. “Not only of the Palestinian leadership but the entire Palestinian population?”

Aljazeera.

 

ELLERVEIRA

1:52 AM ET

June 4, 2011

US hypocrisy

The US policy or policies toward the Arab world is (are) riddled with hypocrisy throughout. We more or less support democracy in Egypt and maybe Libya, but we don't support it in Bahrain or Kuwait or Jordan. We don't know what to do re Yemen. Saudi Arabia's brutal dictatorship always gets a pass from Washington, and it is reported that the US encouraged Arabia to send troops into Bahrain to help quell the movement for democracy there. We believe in statehood for the Palestinians, but if the UN Assembly grants it, we will use our Security Council position to veto it. This ought to embarrass Washington and the US public to death, but apparently it doesn't. Washington just goes whistling along pretending all the hypocrisy isn't really there. No wonder the world of Islam has no respect for us at all.

 

SABABA03

1:04 AM ET

June 7, 2011

We (Amerricans) Believe

Quote: "We believe in statehood for the Palestinians, but if the UN Assembly grants it, we will use our Security Council position to veto it."

Lets Try it again - this time quote what really was said by Obama.

We believe in statehood for the Palestinians WITH NEGOTIATED AND AGREED BORDERS BETWEEN PALESTINIANS & ISRAEL. but if the UN Assembly grants it WITHOUT HAMAS RENOUNCING VIOLENCE AGAINST ISRAEL, ACCEPT ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST, AND ACCEPT PAST AGREEMENTS, we will use our Security Council position to veto it.

Walla, that makes more sense isn't it?

 

NEOLEFT

6:39 AM ET

June 7, 2011

What SABABA03 believes

>> Lets Try it again - this time quote what really was said by Obama.

When Israel declared independence, it did not negotiate agreed borders (in fact, it immeditely violated them) , and it certainly didn't renounce violence, nor recognize the right of a Palestinian state to exist.

Avigdor Liberman declared prior agreements null and void when he came to power.

But for thnocentri supremacists like SABABA03, it's always going to be one rule for his tribe, and another rule for everyone else.

 

LOBEWIPER

12:10 AM ET

June 4, 2011

OK, fellow Americans, let's debate Luban's claims, and let our

The Israel Lobby Debate Revisited
June 1st, 2011

Daniel Luban

Jonathan Chait has a new piece (responding to M.J. Rosenberg) in which he attacks critics of the so-called “Israel lobby” for over-stating its power. The lobby has influence like any other, he suggests, but its unnamed “left-wing critics” claim that it “exerts not influence but total control over American foreign policy,” and “wields power…out of character with the power of other lobbies.”

As usual when Chait writes about this topic, he concedes the heart of the lobby critics’ argument in passing, while spending the vast majority of his piece attacking a strawman. I cannot speak for the lobby’s “left-wing critics” in general, but since their (our?) argument is so often caricatured — particularly by those (like Chait) who want to distance themselves from the critics while still maintaining their liberal bona fides — it may be helpful to spell out what the anti-lobby argument entails and what it doesn’t. As I see it, this argument contains two basic claims.

1) The lobby has a significant influence on U.S. foreign policy. Note that this does not imply that it is omnipotent, or unique, or qualitatively different from other special interest groups. It simply implies that the lobby skews (not dictates) U.S. policy in a markedly more pro-Israel direction than would be the case if the lobby didn’t exist. (Thus even though American public opinion leans “pro-Israel” in some vague sense, we can’t simply view U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East as an unproblematic emanation of the Will of the American People, as lobby apologists like Walter Russell Mead assert with willful naivete.)

2) The lobby has a pernicious influence on U.S. foreign policy. Once again, this does not imply that our foreign policy would magically become virtuous and wise in the absence of this influence. It simply implies our foreign policy is worse than it would otherwise be, either in moral terms, or in terms of U.S. strategic interests, or both.

Chait can’t argue against either of these propositions with a straight face, so he simply concedes them in a sentence before commencing his assault on the strawman. He closes by suggesting that the burden is on the lobby’s critics to prove to him that it exerts influence on Middle East policy that is different in kind from other special interest groups.

This is an irrelevant debate. The lobby’s critics don’t need to show that its influence is unique or total, only that it is significant and pernicious. It may well be that, say, the AARP or NRA or financial lobby exert comparable influence in their designated areas of policy.

But it is equally true that someone pushing for, say, financial reform would have no problem saying publicly that the financial lobby has a significant and pernicious effect on policy. More than that, most proponents of financial reform would recognize that it is essential to publicly highlight the ways that Wall Street skews policy, both in order to build support for reform and to adequately understand the forces standing in its way.

But make a comparable critique of the Israel lobby, and you will find that people suddenly get very, very alarmed — and not just the Michael Goldfarbs and Jennifer Rubins of the world, but also liberals like Chait himself. Such liberals ostensibly share these basic criticisms of the lobby but for some reason feel that one should never, ever talk about them publicly. If you do talk about them publicly, and suggest that the Israel lobby has as significant and pernicious effect on U.S. foreign policy in the Levant as the Wall Street lobby has on financial regulatory policy, you will quickly find yourself compared to Hitler or bin Laden or Father Coughlin and your position caricatured beyond recognition.

To avoid further unproductive debates on this subject, let me venture a suggestion for Chait and other liberals who are, if not quite pro-lobby, at least anti-anti-lobby. My position, and that of most of the other lobby critics to whom he refers, is simply that the lobby’s influence is significant and pernicious, and that recognizing this fact is essential for any attempt to positively influence U.S. policy in the Middle East. If you want to argue that the lobby’s influence is not significant, or not pernicious, or that we should simply avoid talking about the subject at all, then do so. Otherwise, save yourself the time.

 

SABABA03

11:31 PM ET

June 8, 2011

Hamas is Israel's best Lobby.

Are you kidding me?. No one does a better job to defeat the Palestinian desire for own state, as Hamas does. No other (Israeli or American) reveals the Arabs true face, and real agenda against the Jews and Israel, as Hamas does. They do much better job then anything AIPAC, Israeli diplomatic core, Israel foreign service do - combined.

Sometimes one wonders, if Ismail Haniya's real name is, Shmuel Hanan, or Halid Mashaal one, is Heim Meshel, both seniors agents in the Israeli intelligence services. Otherwise why would they provide so many reasons to the rest of the world to not be sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.

 

LOBEWIPER

12:14 AM ET

June 4, 2011

The American media has distorted the reality

of the middle east conflict for years by favoring Israel. If we want to hear more of the truth, we should be demanding (among other things) that Al Jazeera English TV be made available nationwide, instead of merely Toledo, OH, Burlington, VT, and Washington, DC.

 

CASESTUDY26

12:36 AM ET

June 4, 2011

Chait's Article

Chait's interpretation of Rosenberg: "Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir said he opposed any land-for-peace agreement with the Palestinians. Senator Carl Levin, then Rosenberg's boss, drafted a letter stating that the United States believed otherwise."

What Rosenberg wrote "Levin asked me to draft a letter to Secretary of State George Shultz stating that it was the view of the Senate that the U.N. Resolutions remained the policy of the U.S. whether Shamir liked it or not."

To Chait, the letter is of no importance when in fact it is what the whole issue was about and how the lobby reacted to it.

 

IDIOTPRAYER84

12:56 AM ET

June 4, 2011

Ignorance is bliss

Its interesting how both the American press and politicians were fawning over Bibi while many in the Israeli press were trashing Bibi's treatment of he only ally it has left. I don't think that groups like AIPAC want a real informed policy debate over the US's support of Israel. Most thinking people understand that the status quo will lead to either apartheid or a non-Jewish state. The only people who don't see this are people who aren't well informed or religious fanatics. You'll never persuade fanatics, so keeping people from hearing an informed is all they have left. Increasingly, young Jews in America are becoming more alienated from the increasingly rightward direction of Israeli politics.

 

AMERICAN PHILOSOPHY

4:37 AM ET

June 4, 2011

The Age of Global Partnership

The relationship between the US and Israel has historically been one of consistent mistrust; from spying to illegal detention. Israel's initial forming was an internationally illegal act as well as their expansive land grabs of Jordanian and Lebanese lands. However, there is now an Israel and while it will not remain with it's current borders. (The borders must be wiped and redrawn (actual meaning of Ahmadinejad's statement)). We must find a secular segment of Israel that can look beyond their apparent sense of superior rights. Israel is a nation of Arabs; some called Jew and some called Palestinian. This religious bigotry while not new is still reprehensible. It is time to let fall the support of religions by nations. The lack of Israel's support of equity and propensity to suppress the majority has been a thorn in the side of justice and right. It is over unless Israel drastically changes it's attitude toward cooperative development. We can not rectify this situation with continued support of Israeli policies, nor should we. Can we not follow the advice given in the story of King Solomon? Will the US continue to suffer reciprocity for our irresponsible policies of the past and the next weapon to attack the US be of much greater significance? Diplomacy has not failed, our leadership has failed and ignored diplomacy for the ease of violence to protect economic interests. We must divert from the thug diplomacy of current and previous administrations and usher in a new era of open diplomacy as even the US has something positive to learn from the cultures of the world.

 

CAL

5:20 AM ET

June 4, 2011

Someone

..please tell me where all these people are that support Israel.
Because I can't find them.

Other than congress, the Jews and some christian zionist...who are they?
No one I know supports Israel and in fact have become very resentful of the special treatment and taxpayer money given to Israel.
And the really informed citizens on foreign policy are outraged over the whole US-Isr scheme in the ME and the Palestine situation.
Every thing I have heard about the Netanyahu - congress spectacle has been on the order of.... 'what the hell?'

You can even look at any comment section in the WP, NYT, WSJ, blogs,anywhere, when there is an article on Israel and the comments run 100 to 1 anti the US Israel relationship.
I know Israel has the whole hasbara teams thing going full court press but they still haven't out numbered the average commenters negative on Israel.
People that don't know about Israel don't care about it one way or another, people that do view it negatively.

Every time I see these claims about how Americans support Israel it reminds me of the old whistling thru the graveyard thing.

I don't even think those like Walt who are mostly removed from and don't rub elbows with the American 'street' have any idea how much of the public now sees Israel as a real problem in our government and are really disgusted by congress's attitude and the idea of US subservience to some foreign country.

 

CHARYBDIS

4:14 PM ET

June 4, 2011

Where are the Israel supporters?

One simple answer to your question is: Read "The Israel Lobby" by Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer!

You will be amazed, I guarantee.

 

MECORMANY

6:06 AM ET

June 4, 2011

Agreeing With Cal

" Although there is no question that Americans have a generally favorable image of Israel and want the United States to help it survive and prosper."

I think over the last several years there has developed a real question as to what Americans believe and want for Israel. Remember, someone in a position of power (a Mossad official?) after the flotilla massacre wondered if Israel was becoming more trouble than it was worth to the US. I recently read in an Israeli magazine that started by listing the two biggest threats facing Israel today -- Iran's potential nuclear capability and the growing feeling that much of the world was starting to wish Israel would just go away.

I realize my thoughts have done a radical shift in the last 3 or 4 years. As one writer said, Obama is a better Zionist than Netanyahu, because if Israel keeps demanding the absurd,as Netanyahu is doing, it's going to be thought of as a rogue state who does not want peace, wants to keep occupying land that is not their's, and thinks killing rock throwers or totally unarmed people is fine and dandy, when they're not trying to starve them to death. Not that we're any better and I imagine 40 years of 110 to 2 votes in the UN alone have insured several lifetimes of hatred for Israel and the US. But both countries have done so much more to deserve that hatred. And I find myself feeling a hatred for the military atrocities these two countries have committed in the MIddle East for too long. How many Arabs have to die before we admit who the real terrorists are?

Nothing Obama said was new or differennt, Netanyahu totally ignored everything in the speech that was positive and focused on one thing that if Israel is serious about peace is going to have to agree to in some way (Obama reiterated "with swaps" often enough) and it was embarassing watching Congress grovel before a petty and thuglike leader of a country that is out of control.

Actually, I have a very unfavorable view of Israel, if Netanyahu speaks for the country I have no interest if it prospers or survives and I'm thoroughly sick of the US spending billions a year to prop a state bent on hatred and paranoia, military occupation and genocide. We've got enough problems with a Wall Street owned government engaged in state terrorism to be concerned whether the second biggest terrorist state survives. It obviously has no concern about the Palestinians and their survival. Why in the heck should anyone be concerned about theirs? And I agree with Cal, I don't think anybody does except Congress where too many of our own reps and Senators are more loyal to a foreign government than their own. And some wingnut Christians who think Biblical prophecy tells them something has to happen in Israel so they can get to that promised land. Likuds and fundamentalists -- a great pair to be influencing US policy in the Middle East.

 

RICHARD CARDULLA

6:56 PM ET

June 5, 2011

Isreal

Excellant comment, you said it all

 

FORLORNEHOPE

8:54 AM ET

June 4, 2011

American media coverage

Some years ago I commented to an American colleague (I'm from Europe) that there was no coverage of the Palestinian case in American media and so it was not surprising that most Americans accepted the line that it was all about democratic Israel threatened by blood thirsty terrorists. She, a West Coast liberal, replied that I was wrong. NPR regularly gave airtime to the Palestinian position. I rest my case.

 

MUSE

10:35 AM ET

June 4, 2011

irresponsible and reckless leadership

The former head of Israel's spy service has launched an unprecedented attack on the country's current government, describing it as "irresponsible and reckless", and has praised Arab attempts to reach an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.

Meir Dagan stepped down as the head of Mossad six months ago but has gone on the offensive in a series of briefings with journalists and public appearances because he feels that Israel's security is being mismanaged by Binyamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, and Ehud Barak, the defence minister.

One newspaper quotes him as saying that he, as head of Mossad, Yuval Diskin, the head of Sin Bet – the internal security agency, and Gabi Ashkenazi, the head of the army, could prevent Netanyahu and Barak from making mistakes but all three have left their positions and have been replaced by men chosen by the current government.

"I decided to speak because when I was in office, Diskin, Ashkenazi and I could block any dangerous adventure. Now I am afraid that there is no one to stop Bibi [Netanyahu] and Barak," said Dagan.

Upon leaving his post, Dagan publicly warned against Israel attacking Iran to stop it from acquiring nuclear weapons.

In his latest comments, he said that if Israel attacks Iran, it will find itself at the centre of a regional war that would endanger the state's existence. Dagan's intervention is dangerous for Netanyahu because it comes from the right wing of Israeli opinion rather than the left, where the prime minister would expect criticism.

Dagan has been in charge of aggressive Israeli actions abroad in recent years, that have included assassinations in Lebanon, Syria and Dubai and an air attack on a suspected nuclear reactor in Syria. He also criticised Israel's failure to offer any initiative to resolve the conflict with the Palestinians .

The absence of any workable plan, he said, will leave Israel in a dangerous and weak situation if the Palestinians push for UN recognition of a state later this year.

Dagan also endorsed Saudi Arabia's peace plan which offered Israel normal relations with all Arab countries if it reaches a peace agreement with the Palestinians. Leading columnist Ari Shavit summarised Dagan's point of view in the Ha'aretz newspaper: "Dagan is extremely concerned about September 2011. He is not afraid that tens of thousands of demonstrators may overrun the settlements. He is afraid that Israel's subsequent isolation will push its leaders to the wall and cause them to take reckless action against Iran."

Ben Caspit of the Maariv newspaper wrote: "He is one of the most rightwing militant people ever born here ... who ate Arabs for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

"When this man says that the leadership has no vision and is irresponsible, we should stop sleeping soundly at night."

Dagan was quoted in the newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth describing Netanyahu and Barak as "irresponsible and reckless individuals".

Dagan's criticism of Netanyahu comes when the prime minister is enjoying popular support following his trip to Washington and his speech to Congress.

Opinion polls suggest that Netanyahu has a nine-point lead over his nearest challenger and his Likud party is the most popular in the country.

However, Dagan's intervention suggests that while Netanyahu is seen as an able performer in public, he believes that behind the scenes he is less astute.

A spokesman for the prime minister said that he would not discuss Dagan's comments. However members of the cabinet told the Israeli media: "Dagan was out of line on the Iranian issue. This damages deterrence, because the military option must be on the table as a credible option after sanctions.

"If you come and say, 'we can't attack Iran, it's impossible,' you project weakness to the Iranians and make it look like you don't have the courage to do it, and that they can do whatever they want.

"More seriously, it sends a message to the world that they can take their foot off the gas pedal of sanctions."

 

PULLER58

11:49 AM ET

June 4, 2011

US support

Chait has little choice but to toe the line drawn in granite by the fanatical Mary Peretz. About the only rock solid support Israel enjoys among the public are hardline religious groups that support End Times or are just kneejerk supporters. Fred Reed made an observation that AIPAC is panicked due to a decline in support found in polls conducted by GOP pollster Frank Luntz. The main problem on the Hill continues to be the threat of having money withheld from campaign donations, and having support thrown to the opposing candidates. There's little to debate about that were an honest debate to be had on the subject.

 

DICKERSON3870

12:53 PM ET

June 4, 2011

RE: "Chait is a smart and well-informed guy...

...and his views on many subjects are thoughtful and nuanced. Which makes his failure to face the facts on this issue all the more surprising..." - Walt

MY COMMENT: "Sticks and stones may break our bones, but facts will never sway us." ~ Hasbarist Creed

P.S. ALSO SEE: "Bibi and the Yo-Yos", by (Israeli) Uri Avnery, Antiwar.com, 05/26/11:

(excerpt) It was all rather disgusting.
There they were, the members of the highest legislative bodies of the world’s only superpower, flying up and down like so many yo-yos, applauding wildly, every few minutes or seconds, the most outrageous lies and distortions of Binyamin Netanyahu.
It was worse than the Syrian parliament during a speech by Bashar Assad, where anyone not applauding could find himself in prison. Or Stalin’s Supreme Soviet, when showing less than sufficient respect could have meant death.
What the American Senators and Congressmen feared was a fate worse than death. Anyone remaining seated or not applauding wildly enough could have been caught on camera – and that amounts to political suicide. It was enough for one single congressman to rise and applaud, and all the others had to follow suit. Who would dare not to?
The sight of these hundreds of parliamentarians jumping up and clapping their hands, again and again and again and again, with the Leader graciously acknowledging with a movement of his hand, was reminiscent of other regimes. Only this time it was not the local dictator who compelled this adulation, but a foreign one.
The most depressing part of it was that there was not a single lawmaker – Republican or Democrat – who dared to resist. When I was a 9 year old boy in Germany, I dared to leave my right arm hanging by my side when all my schoolmates raised theirs in the Nazi salute and sang Hitler’s anthem. Is there no one in Washington DC who has that simple courage? Is it really Washington IOT – Israel Occupied Territory – as the anti-Semites assert? …

ENTIRE COMMENTARY –
http://original.antiwar.com/avnery/2011/05/25/bibi-and-the-yo-yos/

 

JUSTICE10

2:46 PM ET

June 4, 2011

Bravo

Bravo Professor. The best writing about this subject I have seen in a long term.
3 observations:
1) These people don't travel much beyond America, Israel and maybe some parts of the Western Europe and hence have no clue how fast the World is changing and how quickly America's influence is diminishing
2) These people are guaranteeing the destruction of Israel from within which is a disaster since many young Israelis could be very helpful to the young Arabs in the region that are fighting for freedom
3) These people are will be guaranteeing the downfall of the American Empire due to the cost of supporting their wars and maintaining the financing engine of AIPAC by the major wealth transfer being orchestrated by Shlomo Bernanke from the American savers and tax payers to Wall Street, the major source of AIPAC contributors.

 

JUSTICE10

2:51 PM ET

June 4, 2011

Polls

I don't know if it is indicative but comments posted on NYT and Washington Post articles about Israel are overwhelmingly negative about the current racist apartheid regime in Israel.

 

ELLERVEIRA

4:37 PM ET

June 4, 2011

Israel and the Congress

One gathers from what has been posted here that support for Israel is considerably less among the general public than it is in the Congress. I wonder why. My guess would be money. Zionist supporters are rather big donors to Congressmen and we know this Congress pays more attention to money than to public opinion.

 

NEOLEFT

12:36 PM ET

June 6, 2011

The Oil Lobby

The Arabs have a lot fo money, but very little political clout in Washington.

There was an interesting article in the Washington Post not long ago that analysed why it was that Arab oil money did to trasnlate into political clout.

 

AHMEDWALID

3:17 PM ET

June 6, 2011

The Arabs have had much clout in Washington

look at "bandar bush" of the Saudi family. The US even went to war and fought and died for Arab country (Arab monarchy to be exact) in the first gulf war. Never has USA go to war and shed blood for Israel.

 

NEOLEFT

6:57 AM ET

June 7, 2011

Arabs have no cloout in Washington

>> look at "bandar bush" of the Saudi family.

And what did policies did Bandar Bush push through Congress?

>> The US even went to war and fought and died for Arab country

False. Cheney tricked the Saudi's into not only agreeing to the war, but paying for it by showing the Saudi's fake satellite photographs of Iraqi tank battalions amassed on the border.

http://www.representativepress.org/LiesAboutIraq.html

The US did not go to war with Iraq in 1991 to protect the Saudi's.

>> Never has USA go to war and shed blood for Israel.

It hasn't needed to, but it has given a security guarantee to come to Israel's aid should Israel get into trouble.

Israel tends to pick on soft targets like the Palestinians, though they did get a beating by Hezbollah.

 

MICHAEL RIVERO

5:23 PM ET

June 4, 2011

President Pussy Proves...

No government can serve two masters, and a government that serves Israel cannot serve the American people.

A friend to Israel is no friend of America.

America needs leaders who will put America first, second, and third.

 

ELLERVEIRA

11:54 PM ET

June 4, 2011

Finkelstein's history

Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, Third Edition [Paperback]
Norman G. Finkelstein (Author)

I would recommend this definitive study to all concerned.

 

Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University.

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